Changing the title :-) This is just FYI if you want it.

water2wine · Post by **water2wine** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:01 am

I can see this kind of title has brought out some less than positive things on another board. I just wanted to protect HOD from any involvement in that. Carrie if you think this should be deleted please do it. It is just meant to be informative so wanted to make sure it stayed that way.

I called HSLDA about special needs testing today and asked about the decision concerning the family that had issues with abusing their children and some how brought down all homeschooling in CA. The case in CA is serious and the decision that was made is real according to HSLDA! Homeschooling is now illegal there unless this case is depublished (there is an explanation below) it will no longer be legal to homeschool in CA. As it stands now it is no longer legal unless something is done! That is a problem for all homeschoolers so please even if you are not in CA, sign this petition on the HSLDA site! And get your spouse to sign it separately and all your relatives and friends.

Go to the HSLDA site and sign the petition. It will come down on the drop box on the main page, just wait a moment. http://www.hslda.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1

Here is their explanation on depublication and what needs to be done. HSLDA is not representing the family because they have been and are choosing to stay with a smaller, lesser known and obviously not as powerful legal group. So it is up to other parents to fight the result of their actions! Here is HSLDA's explanation of what can fix it for other families.
"The second appellate option is to seek to have this particular decision “depublished.” Depublication is a decision that can only be made by the California Supreme Court. If the Court determines that the decision should stand, regarding this family, on the facts presented, but that the general pronouncements of law for all of homeschooling should not be determined by this case, then the Court has the option of “depublishing” the Court of Appeal’s decision. This would mean that the case is not binding precedent in California and has no effect on any other family."

inHistiming · Post by **inHistiming** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 9:08 am

water2wine,

Thanks for posting this link. I actually signed it earlier today and emailed it to my husband to look over. This worries me very much; I think we should all have the freedom to homeschool, and this could set a precedent for other cases in other states. So, anyone who reads this, please follow the link and sign the petition. It is SO important

water2wine · Post by **water2wine** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:16 am

It's very important. The attorney at HSLDA told me that their fear is that parents all over the US will not realize the importance of this. This is huge! It needs to be nipped in the bud before it spreads. And I think about how horrible the alternative is for kids in CA with the videos by law they must watch and the parents have no legal right to excuse their kids from now. It is an agenda that needs to be stopped. I am just hoping others see it!

Candice · Post by **Candice** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:36 am

W2W,

I did sign and I hope others will also. It is such an uneasy feeling knowing that my right to homeschooling has been taken away. As it stands now, as a result of the case, homeschooling is illegal in CA. The only way, at this point in time to ensure my daughter can stay in our home for schooling, is for me to become a credentialed teacher. This is way out of reach, so is NOT an option for us. I would have to either send my daughters to public or private school or hire a credentialed in-home tutor. This is not what I envision for my children.

I pray that the future holds blessings for homeschoolers in CA

If you do not wish to sign the petition (it is very simple) please say a prayer.

Candice

water2wine · Post by **water2wine** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 10:49 am

And Candice I do not know what the law is there but to be a credentialed teacher in my state you must have a credential for the level you teach. So I would need at some point to be credentialed on three levels if it were to hit us here! I do not know if that is an issue in CA but makes it pretty scary. Then all they have to do is change the laws to equal a certain kind of BA is needed and certain continuing ed etc is needed to obtain a credential.... you get the point. It is a big can of worms. I hope people see how serious this is for everyone. I am just from CA and have no plans to live there again BUT my husband is in hitech so what now the main hitech state is gone for us unless I become a credentialed teacher?

My neighbor was saying what all the hsing families in Ca should do is all show up on the same day to "enroll" their kids in the same schools and see how they actually handle putting the 13,000 plus families in the already over crowded schools and finding all the "credentialed" teachers to teach them! Hahaha! That would give them a little perspective with their agenda!

Candice · Post by **Candice** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:13 am

The requirements for a credential here in CA are unbelievable. Like I said, way out of reach for me. I even considered it initially, but there is no way I could attain it. So, I am left with public, private, or hiring an in home tutor. Good grief.

My neighbor was telling me that 4 elementary schools in my area are closing, can you imagine if all the homeschoolers had to enroll here?
And the community I live in has a pretty healthy HS population.

I am trying to be patient and confident that things will turn out for the best. The decision was such an absurd "overeach" and I am hoping that this will be acknowledged and rectified.

Waiting is hard.

Candice

inHistiming · Post by **inHistiming** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:37 am

A link; to listen to what Dr. James Dobson has to say about the ruling in CA.

http://www.oneplace.com/Ministries/Focu ... efault.asp

water2wine · Post by **water2wine** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:46 am

Thank you! I am listening now! Really appreciate you posting the link!

First thing said is secondary education will be impossible because you must be certified in every subject! Just heard it in the James Dobson link above. YIKES!

Candice · Post by **Candice** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:52 am

inHistiming wrote:A link; to listen to what Dr. James Dobson has to say about the ruling in CA.

http://www.oneplace.com/Ministries/Focu ... efault.asp

Thank you!

Candice

Tansy · Post by **Tansy** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 11:57 am

I was reading about this yesterday. What I thought was so obnoxious about this ruling is the parents only became disqualified after the judge banned them from the homeschooling program they were in! He banns them then says they arn't compliant. I would move to tx

inHistiming · Post by **inHistiming** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:01 pm

I put this link on my blog, along with the one to sign the petition. I would suggest that you guys send the link to friends and family asking them to consider signing, too. I sent the link to my blog to my friends and family. Maybe it will help?.

blessedmomof4 · Post by **blessedmomof4** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:07 pm

Here is a link to an article.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.c ... DVF0F1.DTL
Apparently, there are some family issues, if you read the section "Began as Welfare Case" where it states that one of the CHILDREN complained of mistreatment by the father. Unfortunately, it seems the anti-homeschooling camp found this a great opportunity to deal a blow to homeschoolers in that state.

What about public school kids who are mistreated by a teacher (like one child I know)-will they be ordered to homeschool? Will public school be called illegal?-I think not. It is wrong for them to judge everyone because of one family with problems.

inHistiming · Post by **inHistiming** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:11 pm

Unfortunately, they had a hidden agenda. It seems they jumped at the chance to make this change; this just gave them opportunity they needed. I am praying that God will make a way here.

momof4 · Post by **momof4** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 12:45 pm

I signed the petition and will continue to pray.

I guess I don't understand why they are pushing so hard to make this illegal. It doesn't make any sense. There's a proverb about the fool's way seems wise to them. I'll have to go find the reference.

Kelly · Post by **Kelly** » Fri Mar 07, 2008 1:37 pm

Wow. Thanks W2W for this. I never check Hslda'a site so I would not have known about this.
I signed the petition and will pray.
Kelly