Can i do this?

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Katherine A.

Can i do this?

Post by Katherine A. » Sat Jun 25, 2011 3:44 pm

I really feel led to do HOD this up coming year, and it looks so great :D

But i would have
A 14 year old in RevTRev.
A 11 and 9 year old in CTC (they will do seperate math)
A 7 year old and 6 year old triplets in BLHFHG
And 3 year old twins in LHTH

I also have a 16, and 15 year old who work independently for the most part.

My husband works 40+ hours a week, but my mom lives with us so she can watch the ones when i'm doing "school" with the other ones.

Im wondering how long it takes everyday for each program?

Last year we used MFW ECC (the triplets are advaced), and it was great, but we want something else this year.

Do you think this is "possible" ?

-Katherine A. :D

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Re: Can i do this?

Post by 8arrows » Sat Jun 25, 2011 7:33 pm

Wow! You have your hands full. Beyond and LHTH do not take a lot of time. Are your 9 and up children placed appropriately (see the placement chart)? This will make all the difference. Much of CTC and Rev to Rev is independent. Have they been reading their own history and science? Also, after confirming placement, I would plan to start your Rev to Rev child first. Get that child independent with the guide. Then start the 9 and 11 year old. Get them independent with the guide. I think you see the pattern.
Melissa, wife to Jim for 28 years
3 graduated, 2 using US 2, 8th grade dd using Missions to Marvels
Isaiah 40:11 ...He gently leads those that have young.

Katherine A.

Re: Can i do this?

Post by Katherine A. » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:15 am

I looked at the placement chart, and they are all placed right except the 11 year old he places more in RTR but i think CTC with Extensions will be a good start. :)

Well this past year in MFW they didnt read there own texts this year, except the 14 year old she did Apologia Physical Science, but they have all read there history and science in the past (with Abeka,ACE , BJU).


Thanks :D

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Re: Can i do this?

Post by 8arrows » Sun Jun 26, 2011 4:52 pm

I agree with the 11 year old's placement. I know Carrie doesn't usually recommend starting with 4 guides the first year of Heart of Dakota, but then again, I don't know too many people that have as many children as you do. You also have the advantage of starting with two shorter programs and two independent programs. I am sure you are used to having a lot going on! It looks like the children are placed well. I would stagger the start times and possibly do some 1/2 time if any of the children struggle. You will find lots of posts about doing a program at 1/2 speed just for a little season until everyone gets the program under their belt and is ready to fly. Also, once you get started, the ladies are so talented at helping to smooth out any rough spots. You will have a lot going on, so your CTC students could read the read-alouds to themselves if they are strong readers. Or you could read them to the 9, 11, and 14 year olds. Are you getting the read a-louds or the extensions for your 14 year old? If you are getting the read a-louds, I would have her read them to herself. Obviously if you are getting the extensions instead, the 14 year old would read them alone. Your oldest child could possible do the Beyond read a-loud for you or work with the LHFHG group. I might even be tempted to do the Who is God study with everyone and skip the Beechick book in CTC. We have really enjoyed using HOD. I hope it is a blessing to your family as well. If I bump this up, hopefully Carrie or Julie will see it and give you some great advise.
Melissa, wife to Jim for 28 years
3 graduated, 2 using US 2, 8th grade dd using Missions to Marvels
Isaiah 40:11 ...He gently leads those that have young.

Katherine A.

Re: Can i do this?

Post by Katherine A. » Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:27 pm

Thanks for the advice :D to answer your question the 14 year old will do the extensions, and i think all the kids besides the 14 year old will do Beyonds Bible i find it important to all study bible/religion together :D, I also thought maybe i could do the storytime section for beyond as a bedtime story? All of them in beyond share a room.

Bumping in hopes Carrie will tell me i'm not crazy to try this :lol:

Katherine A.

Re: Can i do this?

Post by Katherine A. » Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:20 am

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Re: Can i do this?

Post by my3sons » Tue Jun 28, 2011 12:09 pm

Hi Katherine! :D 8arrows already did such a good of talking through this with you, and she has 8 precious dc of her own, so she has walked in your shoes - valuable advice. :) We do 3 HOD guides in our home, and we have found it to be very manageable. I think proper placement is HUGE. I think your younger dc placed in LHTH and BLHFHG sound like they are well-placed and will do great! :D

The upper HOD guides become more independent, which frees up needed time to work with the younger dc as they need more teacher directed learning. It is very important that dc doing CTC on up be able to handle the level of independence a guide asks of them. The "I" boxes are meant to be done completely independently, the "S" boxes are to be done semi-independently, and the "T" boxes are to be teacher-directed. Dc must be able to read and comprehend the history and science well on their own, as well as handle the amount of writing and independence planned in the guide. If you could look at the first week of plans here with that in mind for your 9 yo (as that child is on the very youngest age range of what is suggested for CTC) that would be great! :D
http://www.heartofdakota.com/pdf/CTC-First-Week.pdf

Also, here is a link to one of the harder history books dc in CTC will need to be able to read...
http://www.nothingnewpress.com/guerber/ancient26-27.pdf
http://www.nothingnewpress.com/guerber/ancient-xxx.html

You may want to have your 9 yo read these and see how he/she does with it, and also your 11 yo while your at it. I just want to be sure 9 yo is ready for CTC, or you will be ending up having to step in and teach/tweak things (or your 11 yo will be doing that for 9 yo), and that will just make the day go longer. I am wanting to be certain the 9, 11, and 14 yo can do what they are asked to do in each HOD guide, as this will be crucial to the year going smoothly. :D

Here are some links to the time allotments for each of the guides. These times are for all resources used within HOD. If you sub in anything, and it takes more time than the suggested time allotment, the day will obviously be longer, just so you can take that into consideration...
Beyond, time it takes:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=162
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4390&p=32417

CTC time it takes:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=3765

RTR time it takes by Carrie (these times will be very similar to the time allotments in RevtoRev):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=7138

LHTH takes 20-30 minutes a day.

I'd love to hear your thoughts about your dc in CTC if you get the chance! :D You know you've got a lot on your plate with so many blessings from the Lord, but HOD really does make it easier to manage multiple guides and dc well and enjoy homeschooling while you're at it - as long as dc are properly placed. :wink: So, I want to take some real time on checking placement with you to be sure. :)
In Christ,
Julie
Enjoyed LHTH to USII
Currently using USI
Wife to Rich for 28 years
Mother to 3 sons, ages 23, 20, and 16
Sister to Carrie

Katherine A.

Re: Can i do this?

Post by Katherine A. » Tue Jun 28, 2011 1:11 pm

Thank you! :D

I have decided to do Sonlight Core F with my 9 (almost 10) and 11 (almost 12) 5th and 7th graders because they are readers & writers, i'd love to do HOD with them but i dont think thats whats best for them

The triplets and 7 year old all in 2nd grade will still do Beyond it looks great for them they need more hands-on fun stuff :D
I think we will do Storytime as a bedtime story like previously mentioned, Im also wondering if the 5th grader can use the science in Beyond, The 7th grader is doing Apologia General Science, and i need to find a science for her?

Also still going to do LHTH it looks like fun for them :D

And i think Rev to Rev too, but im just making sure it's considered American History on a highschool transcript right?

Now somehow i have to figure out how to balance my time between them, when im done i'll post my schedule on the share your schedules thread, maybe it will help someone :D

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Re: Can i do this?

Post by Carrie » Wed Jun 29, 2011 10:05 am

Katherine,

The ladies are doing a great job of talking through your options with you. :D From what you've shared, it's sounding like you have your children pretty well-placed. :D Based on the time and the level of content, you will definitely be able to give an American history credit for the work your 14 year old will do in Rev2Rev. Since the work is done in an integrated unit study type fashion, you have some choices as to how to award the credit. For example, you could award a full credit for American history up to 1900 this year and then award a full credit for American history from 1900 forward next year. Or, you could also ponder whether you wish to award any credit for government. If you desire to do so, you could add some of our suggestions for government and award .5 credit for government. If you did that, you could award .5 credit for American history this year and also award .5 credit for government. It is possible, depending on what you added for government, to also give a full credit for American history and .5 of a credit for government. Much of this will depend on whether you go the government route or not with Rev2Rev. There is much there in the program! :D

As far as your 9 and 11 year olds go, if they are avid readers and writers, then they should do fine in CTC. They will definitely need some training in doing the 'I' boxes on their own, but this will really help them so much in gaining independence as learners and in making sure they are getting many of the needed skills that are so often overlooked. CTC is a very rich program and is a year where the kiddos really make great gains in independence and maturity, both in their academic skills but also in their walk with the Lord. If you do end up with your children in CTC, I would encourage you to have your students in CTC do the Bible Quiet Time, rather than doing the Bible study in Beyond with your youngers. I think that having Bible time that targets the specific ages of the students can really address so many character issues, and this varies so much by age. So, while it is a great idea to have your family Bible time all together, I do you think you'll also reap much benefit by having the children in each guide also do their quiet time that is scheduled for their age. Through the quiet time studies in HOD, we have had the most wonderful personal discussions that would never have happened in a group setting. :D

When families do multiple guides, we usually recommend doing one storytime with all kiddos. So, you could easily do the Storytime from Beyond with everyone if desired. Or, you could use Beyond's storytime as bedtime reading (just making sure to do the follow-ups as they are so important). :D You could definitely have the CTC pair do their own storytime readings, or have the 9 year old read the storytime books on his/her own and have the 11 year old only do the Extension books (but not the storytime books) on his/her own. They could just follow the schedule in the CTC guide to do their own readings for those areas. :D Your child in Rev2Rev could also do just the Extensions on her own, omitting the Storytime books, or if she is an avid reader, she could read both the Storytime and the Extensions following the schedules in the guide. The questions for the Storytime in Rev2Rev are great for higher-level thinking, so you could just ask her those questions after the readings to dig a little deeper. :D

As far as the Bible Study goes, with your very large family in mind, I like 8arrow's possible suggestion of doing the 9, 11, and 14 year old together twice weekly for their Bible Time with you. To do this, you could potentially do either Who Is God? from Rev2Rev with your 9, 11, and 14 year old, or do Genesis: Finding Our Roots with all 3. Since both are scheduled twice weekly, it wouldn't affect the balance of the guides to do one with all 3. Then, the following year, you could possibly do the other one with all 3 that you didn't do the year before with them. :D

I also think that it would be possible for one of your olders to do LHTH with your youngers. My older sister has 7 children and had her oldest daughter do this with one of her littles. They had a wonderful time with it. It only takes 30 min. or less each day and requires no prep. or planning. So, this is an option too. :D

I agree that your 6 year olds and 7 year olds will fit well in Beyond. They should have such a fun year! :D If you can try to get the left side of Beyond done in one 30 - 35 min. sitting each day that will help so much. :D Then, the right side of Beyond is easily able to be fit in off and on throughout the day as time allows. This makes Beyond such an easy addition to the day. :D

The mix and balance of guides you have in HOD will definitely make doing 4 guides feasible. You have a great spread between the kiddos in levels of independence, maturity, and needs. :D I would likely encourage you to do a 4 day plan for Beyond and LHTH too so that your younger kiddos' schedules match your olders. CTC and Rev2Rev are both 4 day programs. By doing Beyond and LHTH 4 days a week, you would spill over 9 weeks into the next school year to finish the guide, before heading into LHFHG and Bigger. :D

On the 5th day each week, you could only do the 3R's if desired or have your kiddos have a day off. :D Just a few ideas!

Blessings,
Carrie

Katherine A.

Re: Can i do this?

Post by Katherine A. » Wed Jun 29, 2011 1:40 pm

Thanks Carrie! :D

I do plan to do LHTH and BLHFHG
We decided to go a different way for the 14 year old, She's going to do a curriculum with her older siblings in highschool who all need World History (to save monet), But we will probably do Rev To Rev Next year.
And also decided on Sonlight Core F for the 9 & 11 year old and see how it works out.

I am really excited to do LHTH and BLHFHG with the little ones though.

BLHFHG looks so fun! My boys will love it! They've been getting bored with other things, i dont think they will this year!
I'm Pretty sure all the boys, and the twins, will do HOD through Highschool, And i know it will be great! :D

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