Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

This is where new posts begin. All questions or discussions about any of Heart of Dakota's curriculums start here. If you wish to share a one-time post about your family's experience with our curriculum, you may post under the specific curriculum title (found beneath this "Main Board" heading).
Post Reply
MommyInTraining

Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by MommyInTraining » Fri Jan 16, 2009 9:53 pm

Hi Ladies,

I have my 3rd grader in R&S 2 to try to make sure that she has a good foundation. We are still in Unit one and the information is very basic for her so I have just been having her do it on her own without writing anything. I am wondering how long I should let her go before requiring her to start writing it out. Any suggestions?

How many others of you use it orally as opposed to written?

Thanks!

my3sons
Posts: 10702
Joined: Sun Aug 26, 2007 7:08 pm
Location: South Dakota

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by my3sons » Sat Jan 17, 2009 2:58 pm

Hi Terri - glad you're back! :D I would still have her write a portion of it each day right away, because R & S teaches dc to apply their grammar within writing, and that can't be learned if she's not writing. I remember reading in a previous post that you're getting started now after a change in your year - if you wanted to double up a few lessons a day to catch up, you probably could, but writing even a bit each day teaches grammar within writing which is a key part of the learning in R & S.

In Christ,
Julie :D
Enjoyed LHTH to USII
Currently using USI
Wife to Rich for 28 years
Mother to 3 sons, ages 23, 20, and 16
Sister to Carrie

Kathleen
Posts: 1980
Joined: Mon Feb 11, 2008 3:23 pm
Location: NE Kansas

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by Kathleen » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:37 pm

We are doing R&S 2 this year and I have my ds write one section of the work. Sometimes I choose it, sometimes he does. The rest we do orally. So, for example, if the writing part we choose asks for complete sentences I usually have him write about 5 of them. If it's a section asking for a correct word to complete the sentence and the word is all they're asked to write, he usually does about 10. We use a small white board for his written portion. For some reason this is a special treat and sped up our writing portion incredibly! :D :roll: (However, our markers all seem to have rum out of ink simultaneously, and he's writing on normal paper just fine without complaint. :wink: )

:D Kathleen
Homeschooling mom to 6:
Grant - 19 Kansas State University
Allison - 15 World Geography
Garret - 13 Res2Ref
Asa - 8 Bigger
Quinn - 7 Bigger

Halle - 4 LHTH

netpea

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by netpea » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:14 pm

We do grammar orally. I did however get the worksheets for R&S 3 and my son fills them in. He is doing fine with dictation and handwriting, and we do poetry and bible copywork in startwrite, so I don't make him write his grammar.

marypoppins
Posts: 115
Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:21 am
Location: OH

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by marypoppins » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:05 pm

We do about half of each lesson orally and half written daily. At this early stage (3rd grade), I'm almost inclined to do more oral work because I think it's so very important for dc to have a solid foundation regarding what correct grammar *sounds* like.

abtowell
Posts: 12
Joined: Tue Jan 13, 2009 1:21 pm
Location: Oklahoma

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by abtowell » Mon Jan 19, 2009 12:49 pm

I have done R&S grammar for 4 years now. I do a little of both all the time. My 3rd grade boys make study cards because they have trouble memorizing things like helping verbs and such. They also write how to on the card such as on the direct object card it says, Direct Object- a noun that receives the action. Then under it they write only sentences with action verbs have direct objects. to find the direct object say the simple subject and simple predicate togther and then ask who? or what? Ususally this info is in bold print in the lesson or in a little remember box. They can keep the cards with them when they work on their own. I only take them away for the test. I also use the worksheets for extra cursive. They have to do the WS in cursive. For the lessons I have them write sentences or diagram but if it's choose a word or something we do it orally. When they did R&S 2 I did half and half. I would say if 1-5 was right then they could do 5-10 orally as incentive. I still do this alot, even thoguh Grade 3 has more writing. My fifth grader does the lesson orally that are more of review form the previous years that she remembers and then if it's a new concept we write. She never had to make cards though because she always remember the info on her own.
Hope that helps.
Mom to 7
dd 1-3-98 BHFHG ext, R&S 6 , Key to Math( done), NOEO Physics 2, WW6
ds 7-2-99 BHFHG sort of, GWG 4, WW3, Complete book of Math
ds 2-13-00 BHFHG, GWG 4, WW4, MMM 5
dd 5-28-01 ND therapy
ds 4-9-04 LHFHG
ds 2-23-06
ds 5-11-08

dale1088
Posts: 165
Joined: Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:07 am
Location: Cedar Park, TX

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by dale1088 » Tue Jan 20, 2009 8:22 am

I do a lot of it orally too. I just started Bigger and R&S 2 a couple of weeks ago and wasn't sure if I should start her out (3rd grade) in 2 or 3 since I was pulling her from public school. So we are flying through the beginning of R&S 2 doing a lot of it orally, and will slow down to doing more written when she gets to material that is new to her. I think we are both looking forward to getting to new material and something that's a little more challenging. meanwhile it's good review!

paliz
Posts: 17
Joined: Fri Oct 03, 2008 9:38 am

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by paliz » Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:13 am

My son is not big on writing so our deal is that on days he has dictation we just do that orally but on days he doesn't he has to do the writing. It's a really good balance for use.

momof2n2
Posts: 273
Joined: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:54 pm

Re: Rod and Staff Grammar--Oral or Written?

Post by momof2n2 » Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:19 am

We are using Bigger and R&S 3 for my third grade, language-arts-minded son.
We only do written when there is a bit of a struggle, or every once in a while we will diagram a few sentences for review.
We always do the worksheet as called for. That has been enough for us.
I LOVE ROD AND STAFF! ♥

Fall 2015
DS 17 -gr.12 full time college student
DS 15- gr. 10 favorites from World Geo and World Hx.
DD 13- gr. 8 Rev to Rev
DD 11- gr. 6 CTC
DD 7 - gr. 2 Beyond
DD 4 - pre-K Rod & Staff and Phonics Pathways

Post Reply