Lourdes - I'm glad you have had some good results already.

I think you received good advice here. I have noticed that when my oldest has attitude problems, the youngers are soon to follow. Your oldest dd is the "lead horse" (as the Boyers say

), and has a special role in leading her siblings. It helped my oldest to explain this special responsibility to him. He wants to lead his younger brothers in a good direction. Likewise, it helped my middle ds to tell him he is leading our youngest (not sure what I'll tell our youngest).

Also, privileges need to be recognized as such. They are earned. This includes bedtimes, free time, fun time, toys/games/ipods/tv time/movies/music, etc. They can be taken away and sometimes need to be so they are remembered to be privileges. Your Thanksgiving discussion was a good one - I'm glad you saw good results.

I have come to believe that respect in the way dc talk to us is a must. I had my dc saying "I know, I know", just not answering me, or giving great sighs a few weeks ago. My oldest started it, and my middle ds was soon to follow. I finally hung a sticky note up on the cupboard. I told them for every time they did not respond "Yes, mom" in a cheerful voice when I told them to do something, they had 5 minutes earlier of a bedtime. For every time they did not complete all of their chores without being told, they lost their 30 minute computer time for the day. Two days of following through on this worked wonders. They can wear us down sometimes, can't they?!? But, we sometimes forget we have control of their day and that privileges are not a given. I hope you continue to see good results - but be strong, be firm - you are not alone in this struggle, but as homeschool parents, we have more options in our control to change bad habits into good habits. HTH!
In Christ,
Julie