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What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:22 pm
by Heart_Mom
As my children are getting older, they are reading more and more on their own. It's becoming hard for me to pre-read every book they read, and while I would like to do just that for my own enjoyment, I just don't have the time! :D We are a very conservative family, and it's sometimes hard to find good books for my children to read.

So, I'm curious as to what sorts of situations, etc. are considered okay in book selections when Carrie is choosing them. Is there a previous thread that would give me this information?

I'm particularly interested in a few areas:
1. Do the books include boy/girl relationships?
2. Is family life generally valued?
3. Is the language appropriate? (I would not want them to be reading anything that uses bad language or takes the Lord's name in vain.)

I have less of an issue dealing with these issues when I'm reading aloud to my children, because we can discuss what's happening and I can get a feel for how they are processing it.

For the most part, I was fine with the books we read this past year for Beyond:
1. Benjamin West
2. A Lion to Guard Us
3. Sarah Witcher's Story
4. The Cabin Faced West
5. Charlotte's Web
6. Ginger Pye
7. Pagoo
8. A Bear Called Paddington

So, can anyone tell me the choosing criteria? :D

Thank you so much!

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:53 pm
by Mom2Monkeys
We have the same conservative stance with reading material for or children ad I haven't had issue with a single book Carrie has chosen! I can trust that I don't have to pre read anything whatsoever. Nothing offensive in any of the DITHOR choices and we've used all of the level 2, level 3, and own almost all from both girl and boy packs for levels 4/5 and 5/6. They are fantastic choices!

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:06 pm
by gotpeace91
We have used Bigger, Preparing, CTC, Level 2/3 girl pack for DITHR, and Level 4/5 boy pack. I haven't seen any problems with any of the areas that you mentioned. They have all been wonderful books! I think Carrie is very conservative with her choices. If you look at the 6/7 book pack you will see that she makes notes at the bottom of the reviews of two of the books that might have issues you'd want to look out for. So I think that if there could be an issue it will be mentioned. :)

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 10:38 pm
by raceNzanesmom
gotpeace91 wrote: she makes notes at the bottom of the reviews of two of the books that might have issues you'd want to look out for. So I think that if there could be an issue it will be mentioned. :)
We found this even with the Burgess books in LHFHG. If there was something that might be (or was) offensive Carrie noted it.

From reading here and elsewhere the past few months I feel good trusting Carrie's choices. It sounds like she is like minded when it comes to your concerns. The only issues I could see in the future is the pure truth of what's happening in a book. For example, it's hard to read about slavery, or war, or how others turned from God, and not have a saddened heart. From looking ahead it seems Carrie has done a good job picking what's age appropriate in those areas, since there are obviously things older kids could handle vs younger ones.

Hopefully, Carrie or Julie will comment.

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:21 pm
by Heart_Mom
Thanks, everyone, for your responses! :D

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 10:45 am
by my3sons
I'm glad to hear you are concerned about what your dc are reading - this is a concern of our family's as well. I think there are many books that are lining shelves of libraries, book stores, and homes, that are simply not good books. We are a conservative family and try to have a similar standard for our dc's free reading time as we do for their homeschooling time, though I must admit the dc's free reading books are not as wonderful as HOD's book picks. I have really struggled with finding books for our dc to read just for free time, and these books don't even have to fit into a specific historical time period, a particular science focus, a certain genre, or an exact age level. :shock: I will say that as dc get older the book selections become more and more difficult to make. We have appreciated Carrie's careful attention in trying to pick the best books possible, but we do not hold her to a perfect standard, for the task at hand is a daunting one, and finding so many books specific to so many things year after year is truly difficult. I have seen Carrie reading with piles, piles, and piles of books around her well into the late night hours, sometimes going through hundreds of books to find 9-12 redeemable ones. It is not easy, and choices do have to be made. Along with these good guidelines you have mentioned...

1. Do the books include boy/girl relationships?
2. Is family life generally valued?
3. Is the language appropriate? (I would not want them to be reading anything that uses bad language repeatedly or takes the Lord's name in vain.)
4. Is violence glorified or overly descriptive?

...HOD also looks for an accurate representation of history, science, etc., and a narrative very well-written living book with a well-formed plot. In general, I'd say boy/girl relationships have completely been avoided so far in HOD, to protect the purity of our dc. A book that has multiple instances of language concerns would never be chosen. If all book choices for a particular focus have been searched out and considered, and a book that best meets all of the qualifications has one or two instances of a language concern, HOD would notify you of this and have you white out the word or cross it off prior to your dc reading it. Family life being valued, specifically the way dc interact with their siblings, parents, and extended family as well as how they behave with elders who deserve respect, is definitely considered. One more consideration is that the worship of idols, false gods, false goddesses, etc. can NOT be glorified, but rather this is seen as pagan, as sinful, and as sad. HOD's plans include ample discussion along with the books being read with Scripture passages, people from the Bible, and Godly character traits to help our dc learn to read with moral discernment, as the only perfect book in this sinful world is the Bible. That is why it is so important not to skip the follow-ups in each of the boxes of plans in HOD - they provide Biblical connections, discussions, analysis, and applications that are key when reading books other than the Bible. Last, HOD works to make sure not to give children an appetite for bloody violence by trying to be mindful of how violence is handled within each book.:D

Honestly, the book selections narrow as dc mature. The topics become more mature as dc become more mature. This is why HOD's Storytime and DITHOR books always can be replaced with books you would prefer if you've read some and found some better fitting to your family's goals. Trying to find books to represent every genre is a difficult task. Personally, I have - not once - had an issue with the books Carrie has chosen. In fact, I have been delighted as have my dc. I have read a ton of books though, having taught 16 years, and I know how hard it is to find books that fit all of these qualifications. When I look at the book selections of ps and other curriculums offered to families, I have to say I feel very content with HOD's choices. :D

I think HOD does an outstanding job of choosing books with a balance of all of the above mentioned qualifications, but in the end, it is our responsibility as parents to be sure the books our dc are reading fit with our own personal standards. If you had any concerns with Beyond's titles, you may want to preread the books and choose your own if something arises you are not in agreement with. HOD makes it very easy to replace many books - i.e. DITHOR, Storytime, etc. The history and science books are more difficult to replace, as they are the spines of the program, but I think those are rock solid IMO. HTH!

In Christ,
Julie

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 11:03 am
by Heart_Mom
my3sons wrote:I'm glad to hear you are concerned about what your dc are reading - this is a concern of our family's as well. I think there are many books that are lining shelves of libraries, book stores, and homes, that are simply not good books. We are a conservative family and try to have a similar standard for our dc's free reading time as we do for their homeschooling time, though I must admit the dc's free reading books are not as wonderful as HOD's book picks. I have really struggled with finding books for our dc to read just for free time, and these books don't even have to fit into a specific historical time period, a particular science focus, a certain genre, or an exact age level. :shock: I will say that as dc get older the book selections become more and more difficult to make. We have appreciated Carrie's careful attention in trying to pick the best books possible, but we do not hold her to a perfect standard, for the task at hand is a daunting one, and finding so many books specific to so many things year after year is truly difficult. I have seen Carrie reading with piles, piles, and piles of books around her well into the late night hours, sometimes going through hundreds of books to find 9-12 redeemable ones. It is not easy, and choices do have to be made. Along with these good guidelines you have mentioned...

1. Do the books include boy/girl relationships?
2. Is family life generally valued?
3. Is the language appropriate? (I would not want them to be reading anything that uses bad language or takes the Lord's name in vain.)

...HOD also looks for an accurate representation of history, science, etc., and a narrative very well-written living book with a well-formed plot. In general, I'd say boy/girl relationships have completely been avoided so far in HOD, to protect the purity of our dc. A book that has multiple instances of language concerns would never be chosen. If all book choices for a particular focus have been searched out and considered, and a book that best meets all of the qualifications has one or two instances of a language concern, HOD would notify you of this and have you white out the word or cross it off prior to your dc reading it. Family life being valued, specifically the way dc interact with their siblings, parents, and extended family as well as how they behave with elders who deserve respect, is definitely considered. One more consideration is that the worship of idols, false gods, false goddesses, etc. can NOT be glorified, but rather this is seen as pagan, as sinful, and as sad. HOD's plans include ample discussion along with the books being read with Scripture passages, people from the Bible, and Godly character traits to help our dc learn to read with moral discernment, as the only perfect book in this sinful world is the Bible. That is why it is so important not to skip the follow-ups in each of the boxes of plans in HOD - they provide Biblical connections, discussions, analysis, and applications that are key when reading books other than the Bible. :D

Honestly, the book selections narrow as dc mature. The topics become more mature as dc become more mature. This is why HOD's Storytime and DITHOR books always can be replaced with books you would prefer if you've read some and found some better fitting to your family's goals. Trying to find books to represent every genre is a difficult task. Personally, I have - not once - had an issue with the books Carrie has chosen. In fact, I have been delighted as have my dc. I have read a ton of books though, having taught 16 years, and I know how hard it is to find books that fit all of these qualifications. When I look at the book selections of ps and other curriculums offered to families, I have to say I feel very content with HOD's choices. :D

I think HOD does an outstanding job of choosing books with a balance of all of the above mentioned qualifications, but in the end, it is our responsibility as parents to be sure the books our dc are reading fit with our own personal standards. If you had any concerns with Beyond's titles, you may want to preread the books and choose your own if something arises you are not in agreement with. HOD makes it very easy to replace many books - i.e. DITHOR, Storytime, etc. The history and science books are more difficult to replace, as they are the spines of the program, but I think those are rock solid IMO. HTH!

In Christ,
Julie
Julie, your response is very helpful! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer me so thoroughly! :D I will show your response to my husband, also.

I can't imagine how hard and time consuming it is for Carrie to choose books for each and every level! So, thank you, Carrie for reading so many books to find the gems. I must say that we did thoroughly enjoy the Storytime and History books from Beyond this past year! :D My very small issues with a couple of the books may be unreasonable. I think need to evaluate if my standards for books are too high. :roll: I was allowed to read anything when I was a child, and, sadly, I read some really bad stuff! I want to give my children good books to read, but I also think it's okay for them to wrestle a bit with issues, especially as they get older.

One question for you: You mentioned that if there was something that could be a problem in a book, that Carrie will make a note of it. I can imagine that this would be easy to do for any books that are included in the History or History-Focussed Storytime packs in the older guides. Is there a place that any concerns might be mentioned for the DITHR book packs?

Thank you again so very much! We're so looking forward to starting Bigger in September! :D

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:00 pm
by Carrie
Issues for content in DITHR book packs are typically noted within the description of the book on our website. So, you'd want to check there. You are always welcome to select your own books too for DITHR, which is one of the huge blessings of DITHR. In that way, you can be sure to find books that meet your family's goals and criteria. :D

Blessings,
Carrie

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2011 5:09 pm
by Heart_Mom
Carrie wrote:Issues for content in DITHR book packs are typically noted within the description of the book on our website. So, you'd want to check there. You are always welcome to select your own books too for DITHR, which is one of the huge blessings of DITHR. In that way, you can be sure to find books that meet your family's goals and criteria. :D

Blessings,
Carrie
Thank you, Carrie!

I'll keep this in mind! :D

Re: What criteria does HOD use for selecting DITHR book packs?

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2011 5:46 pm
by mater est laetus
This has been one of the first questions I've been asked after mentioning HOD to friends. I appreciate having these specific details to share in future.