
HOD and Mental Math
HOD and Mental Math
I have been pondering this for a while, because I am not clear on the early years in Primary Math. I see that Singapore is considered a mental math program. DD is in PM1A and, so far, doing fine. I read in Carrie's post on her reason for Singapore that a transition comes in PM3 to a textbook method as opposed to the hands-on activities given up through PM2. How much would PM 1&2 be considered mental math. The reason I ask is that dd's OT thinks mental math is not a good method for her. DD just started PM1, so we really haven't gotten into too much. I am just thinking ahead. Right now dd is doing fine with PM. I just don't want to be bouncing around. I plan to continue with PM at least through 2 with the hands-on activities , but from there I'm not sure. Do they not use manipulatives later? I'm not quite sure I'm identifying the major difference. 

I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. III John 4
Pam
dh 33 yrs
ds29 church planter in MA
dd27 SAH mom
dd26
dd 12
3 dgs(5,2, & born 6/15) & 2 dgd(3 & born 2/15)
Pam
dh 33 yrs
ds29 church planter in MA
dd27 SAH mom
dd26
dd 12
3 dgs(5,2, & born 6/15) & 2 dgd(3 & born 2/15)
Re: HOD and Mental Math
I think when it is said that Singapore is a mental program what is meant by that is that it teaches dc to think about the concepts of how the process is done and often times be able to solve the problems in their mind without pencil and paper. As an example, instead of just teaching dc to write out a math problem that involves regrouping, it teaches them how to think about it in groups (tens, ones, etc.) so that they can do it without writing it down. When I was in school, I was taught just to follow the steps of adding the first column, carry to the second column, etc. I wasn't taught why! Singapore teaches the why and when you know the why you can often do the problem without having to go through the trouble of writing down the steps. Now my ds is not typical, but on his standardized testing this year, the tester told me that he didn't even use his scrap paper to do any of his math problems.
He did all of the problems in his head and tested many levels above his grade level.
I don't think you can find a program that better teaches how to think conceptually about math. It still follows the method of teaching first with concrete examples (manipulatives), then moving to pictoral examples, and finally the abstract concepts. In both level 1 and 2, you'll be using the hands on (concrete) examples that Carrie has provided in the math exploratations. When you move into level 3, you'll be moving into the textbooks which use pictures to explain the process. By this time most dc can understand the concepts through the picture examples. I find the pictures very clear and helpful. It would always be possible at this level to still include manipulatives if a dc needed them. We're just now in level 4 and there are still great pictoral examples in the textbook. I'm guessing that these will continue in all of primary math.
I have a high regard for Singapore math now. When I first came to HOD, I was using another math program, Miquon along with some other living math concepts. I was hesitant to switch to Singapore. The thought process behind Singapore and MIquon are similar though and Singapore is laid out much simpler. Many people use the two programs together so I thought I would do the same. As time passed, I didn't find the need to continue with Miquon and just continued with Singapore. My dc are thriving with it. My ds is mathematically gifted and he soars with Singapore. Math is not my dd's strength yet she has excelled with it also. Both of them are testing well above grade level in mathematics on standardized tests. The tester this year asked my ds what math program he uses and when he told her Singapore, she said, "I knew it!" It's her program of choice for teaching higher level reasoning skills. I tell you this to just encourage you to give it a chance. I think it can work well for many dc, and it is such a solid program especially with the wonderful concrete examples and activities that Carrie has written to go with the program.

I don't think you can find a program that better teaches how to think conceptually about math. It still follows the method of teaching first with concrete examples (manipulatives), then moving to pictoral examples, and finally the abstract concepts. In both level 1 and 2, you'll be using the hands on (concrete) examples that Carrie has provided in the math exploratations. When you move into level 3, you'll be moving into the textbooks which use pictures to explain the process. By this time most dc can understand the concepts through the picture examples. I find the pictures very clear and helpful. It would always be possible at this level to still include manipulatives if a dc needed them. We're just now in level 4 and there are still great pictoral examples in the textbook. I'm guessing that these will continue in all of primary math.
I have a high regard for Singapore math now. When I first came to HOD, I was using another math program, Miquon along with some other living math concepts. I was hesitant to switch to Singapore. The thought process behind Singapore and MIquon are similar though and Singapore is laid out much simpler. Many people use the two programs together so I thought I would do the same. As time passed, I didn't find the need to continue with Miquon and just continued with Singapore. My dc are thriving with it. My ds is mathematically gifted and he soars with Singapore. Math is not my dd's strength yet she has excelled with it also. Both of them are testing well above grade level in mathematics on standardized tests. The tester this year asked my ds what math program he uses and when he told her Singapore, she said, "I knew it!" It's her program of choice for teaching higher level reasoning skills. I tell you this to just encourage you to give it a chance. I think it can work well for many dc, and it is such a solid program especially with the wonderful concrete examples and activities that Carrie has written to go with the program.

Patty in NC
b/g twins '02 Rev2Rev 2014/15
previously enjoyed LHFHG, BLHFHG, Bigger, Preparing, CTC, RTR
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b/g twins '02 Rev2Rev 2014/15
previously enjoyed LHFHG, BLHFHG, Bigger, Preparing, CTC, RTR
******
Nisi Dominus Frusta (Without God, frustration)
Unless the LORD builds the house, its builders labor in vain. Psalm 127:1
Re: HOD and Mental Math
Thanks, Patty.
You explained this very well. I definitely am going to stay with Singapore as long as possible. I'm not really sure what works best for dd, when it comes to math, at this point. This year has been a 'feeling out' time with her. We have made some progress in reading and writing. I am confident that math will be the same. If it takes longer to learn certain concepts, that's okay. I just wanted to make sure I was using the right approach for her. We'll keep plugging away.
You explained this very well. I definitely am going to stay with Singapore as long as possible. I'm not really sure what works best for dd, when it comes to math, at this point. This year has been a 'feeling out' time with her. We have made some progress in reading and writing. I am confident that math will be the same. If it takes longer to learn certain concepts, that's okay. I just wanted to make sure I was using the right approach for her. We'll keep plugging away.

I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. III John 4
Pam
dh 33 yrs
ds29 church planter in MA
dd27 SAH mom
dd26
dd 12
3 dgs(5,2, & born 6/15) & 2 dgd(3 & born 2/15)
Pam
dh 33 yrs
ds29 church planter in MA
dd27 SAH mom
dd26
dd 12
3 dgs(5,2, & born 6/15) & 2 dgd(3 & born 2/15)
Re: HOD and Mental Math
Pam,
We were doing Singapore Math before HOD and so I didn't have all the snippets of help that the HOD math box provides (and I didn't have a teacher's guide). So, we basically did the Singapore 2B mental math concepts on paper.
In other words, you can do Singapore in a non-mental way if you aren't doing it the way the math program was intended and your child will still learn math. I think it was when I got to Sing 3 that I realized what I'd done and we adjusted for the way my dd had been taught (by me using Sing). Oddly, she now (in 4A) prefers to solve 2 digit multiplication in her head (because it's faster).
This is definitely thanks to Singapore Texts explaining exactly the steps and then practicing those. For example 13 x 22 (Singapore would have the student take 10x22 mentally (220) and then 3x22 (66) and add the two products (220+66=286). If the child does that enough times, they get pretty good at it. So you can see, the mental part isn't that complicated, it's a matter of practice. Hope that helps.
Amy
We were doing Singapore Math before HOD and so I didn't have all the snippets of help that the HOD math box provides (and I didn't have a teacher's guide). So, we basically did the Singapore 2B mental math concepts on paper.


Amy
Currently:
dd 16 AH1 -bits & pieces (previously used Bigger, Preparing, CtC, RtR, Rev, MMtM, WG, WH)
dd 12 REV (previously used LHTH, LHfHG, Beyond, Bigger, Preparing, CtC, & RtR)
dd 16 AH1 -bits & pieces (previously used Bigger, Preparing, CtC, RtR, Rev, MMtM, WG, WH)
dd 12 REV (previously used LHTH, LHfHG, Beyond, Bigger, Preparing, CtC, & RtR)
Re: HOD and Mental Math
Thanks, Amy. I am anxious to see where dd goes with this. In the meantime, we'll enjoy Carrie's activities. 

I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in truth. III John 4
Pam
dh 33 yrs
ds29 church planter in MA
dd27 SAH mom
dd26
dd 12
3 dgs(5,2, & born 6/15) & 2 dgd(3 & born 2/15)
Pam
dh 33 yrs
ds29 church planter in MA
dd27 SAH mom
dd26
dd 12
3 dgs(5,2, & born 6/15) & 2 dgd(3 & born 2/15)