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Drawn Into The Heart of Reading Question

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:24 am
by Rebecca
Can this be used mainly as a discussion guide?
Do you think it would still be a beneficial tool if projects/activities were mainly eliminated and only occassionally used?


Thank you so much,
Rebecca

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:18 am
by blessedmomof4
Well, this is a complete literature course, and I am finding that every part has been greatly beneficial to my struggling reader-discussions, written work, slow steady reading of good books, projects.
However, some people, including Carrie, I believe, have taken it at a slower pace by covering only some of the genres one year and the rest the next, doing DITHOR a few times a week instead of daily.
I wouldn't just skip parts of lessons, though.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:37 am
by Tansy
The guide book (not DITHOR) like Bigger and Beyond, use portions of DITHOR in the "read aloud" section. This portion is pretty much a "discussion guide." So if your just buying it for the discussion part I don't see any reason to. it might take some page flipping but you just have to find right genre in the manuel and flip to it.

I use DITHOR more slowly one month on one off, covering all genres in the course of 2 years. But I really like this program it is simple easy to use. It teaches my dd about centered values, and discusses way more than i could have come up with on my own.

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 1:58 pm
by my3sons
blessedmomof4 wrote:Well, this is a complete literature course, and I am finding that every part has been greatly beneficial to my struggling reader-discussions, written work, slow steady reading of good books, projects.
However, some people, including Carrie, I believe, have taken it at a slower pace by covering only some of the genres one year and the rest the next, doing DITHOR a few times a week instead of daily.
I wouldn't just skip parts of lessons, though.
I totally agree with what Lourdes said here. If you need to save some time (which I can completely understand), I think it would be better to just do it in its complete form 3 days a week or so, taking 2 days a week off - as opposed to deleting portions of it. All of the parts work so harmoniously together, that dropping a section ruins the neat balance of it.

We do it 3 days a week. We went through half of the genres last year, and are doing the other half this year. That pace is just right for us. We'll do all of Level 2/3 once then, over 2 years. We'll probably continue this way with Level 4/5 and Level 6/7/8, though, who knows? Maybe we'll switch it up and do it 4 days a week or 5 days a week at some point too. Does that help out at all?

In Christ,
Julie

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 3:22 pm
by Rebecca
Maybe I don't understand the program?
I have looked at the online samples but maybe I don't "see" it all? KWIM?

I would still use the student workbook, etc...
but I would rather do a "low key" intro to the genre... and I am not sure about the end of unit project?


FWIW, I don't have a struggling reader right now... and I also don't have a child who is not interested in reading...
so far all of my children love all sorts and types of books...
So- I don't know how necessary creating "anticipation" is for our family- especially considering the time constraints I have with the children...
Truly, we read widely...

I love the idea of teaching through a "christian screen" and all the story elements...

I hope this makes sense...
However, I also know that it is enough for me right now to make sure we get our science experiments done! let alone an extra reading project... when we already love to read (that is not our weak area...)

Thanks,
Rebecca

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 4:49 pm
by Carrie
Rebecca,

I had a very well-written answer to your question, which I lost because my computer timed out on me! So, here is a slightly more concise, not as well-written response as my prior post! :roll:

I do understand what you're saying, and I realize that time is at a premium at your house! :D I think what Tansy was mentioning in her post is that both "Beyond..." and "Bigger..." do have literature study scheduled daily to go with the read-alouds in the Storytime box daily. So, you will be getting exposure to a variety of genres, study of story elements, focus on Godly character qualities, and discussion questions already if you are using either of those guides. :D

However, once you get to "Preparing...", "Drawn into the Heart of Reading" is recommended for the literature study portion of the day. This is because the read-alouds in "Preparing..." match the history instead. Also, once kiddos can read at the level required in "Preparing..", they are ready for deeper thinking about the books they are reading and ready to start looking at how to read with moral discernment, which are both different skills than those required when reading for pleasure. :wink:

"Drawn into the Heart of Reading" can be used without the kick-off, prereading strategies, or the projects, if you desire, however it cannot be used without the Teacher's Guide. The questions and lessons in the Teacher's Guide are what make the Student Books so much more than just a workbook. The two definitely work together.

I would also caution you against using just the Teacher's Guide or just the Student Book alone. We have had companies who have sold only one or the other and run into their customers who say they didn't like DITHR, only to find out they were only using half of the program! So, it would be advisable to use as much of the program as possible, as it's written, going at a slower pace as needed. :)

I understand having kiddos who love to read and who read widely. My boys have all been like that (so far). But, we do still use DITHR to help my kiddos recognize the various types of literature, to show them which story elements are most important to each genre, to help them see how the various story elements work together to make good writing, to teach them to read with moral discernment, and to take them to the next level of reading beyond reading for pleasure. :)

Only you can know what will work best for your family in this area. DITHR, as with any other curriculum, can be tweaked to meet your family's individual style. The structure of the program makes it more customizable than most programs by allowing you to choose your own books, the pace you read them at, the way you will wrap up a unit, and the way you will start it off. Just make sure if you tweak it, that you don't tweak so much that it is hardly DITHR anymore! :lol:

Blessings,
Carrie

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:38 pm
by Rebecca
I typed a reply and lost it too! Aye! :roll:

Here is my slightly smaller version:

I feel like I have bumbled this thread! :oops:

Just to clarify: I never intended to use just the student book or just the guide! I would implement both but was wondering if it could be done with less "projects." Granted- I don't really know what all of the projects are anyway!

It seems like the program can be done more independently at the 4/5 level. Is this true? Is this also the level generally recommended for Preparing?

Thank you for response... I understand.

Hoping this reply makes sense,
Rebecca

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:12 am
by Carrie
Rebecca,

You didn't bumble anything! I think I was too distracted typing my reply and somehow misread what you originally posted. :oops:

Anyway, yes, Level 4/5 is more independent than Level 2/3. Level 4/5 has the student with you one day and independent the next. Level 6/7/8 is the most independent, with them meeting with you only 2-3 times each week very briefly.

Even Level 2/3 takes about 30 min. or less, depending on the assignment (including their reading aloud to me time). We currently do DITHR 3 times a week here, which works well for us. Three times a week is what will be recommended in "Preparing..." for DITHR as well. That is to compensate for time needed to be spent on a once a week creative writing lesson that is also given in "Preparing". :D

Did I get it right this time? :roll:

Blessings,
Carrie

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:17 am
by Rebecca
Thank you very much! That does help!
One final question: is there a place on the website I can go to determine which level is right for my child?

Thanks for your help,
Rebecca

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 10:08 am
by Carrie
Rebecca,

I think this link is what you're looking for:
http://www.heartofdakota.com/faqs.php#F ... %20Reading:

Just click on the question that talks about where to place your children in the program to get the answer! :wink:

Blessings,
Carrie