LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

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mom24boys
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LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

Post by mom24boys » Sat Aug 21, 2010 4:40 pm

At this point we have not started narrating, but I assume our readings will begin to prepare the kids for narration in the future. This is kinda long but i have a couple of questions. I had trouble searching the board to find answers, so feel free to redirect me to an old post if necessary. Thanks!

1. During storytime should I stop to expand or discuss? For example, my kids didn't know what "bold" meant when Reddy Fox was being bold (Unit 1 storytime). Should I expect "silence" during reading and at the end discuss or answer questions? Or do I stop and explain as I go? (What would CM do?) Am I trying to train for zero interruptions now so that when we get to narration there won't be any? I'm not sure if my 5 year old can remember his questions until the end.

2. ds6.5 is using emerging readers. On Friday his question was to tell me about Isaac. I know that he knows all of the information, he just doesn't know how to tell me everything he knows. So I ask prompting/leading questions. (Was he an only child? Who are his parents? Was he sad to get a wife? etc.) Is this what I am supposed to be doing to extract the information? Do the kids just catch on and begin offering more info as they get used to it?

3. ds5 doesn't seem to know the answers to the storytime questions on Reddy Fox. I read it during snack time and I feel like he is listening to the story and that he could answer factual questions, but there is definitely some deduction occurring to answer some of the questions. I assume it will take some practice?

I'm very excited about LHFHG and we are having a fun time. I see the great amount of wisdom and thought that is put into the questions. I look forward developing these types of thinking skills in my children.

These are probably newbie questions, but I appreciate your help! :)
Cyndi
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Re: LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

Post by Carrie » Mon Aug 23, 2010 2:27 pm

Cyndi,

I'm just catching up on the board now, but I'll be glad to answer your questions.

1. You're right not to stop and explain words within the readings. CM would say that it interrupts the flow of the story and makes it feel disjointed. The goal is an uninterrupted reading with narration at the end, eventually. Typically the follow-up activities will address questions the kiddos may have had anyway. :D

2. Honestly, the Day 5 prompts are narration prompts. In the beginning, you can expect the child not to share much, as narration will be a new skill. I wouldn't make up questions unless your son truly can't think of anything to say. I'd lean more toward narration starters instead, such as... Can you tell me a bit more about Isaac's family? Or, can you share a bit about Isaac and Rebekah? The goal of the Day 5 assignments is to stay away from any leading questions that force a child to give one prescribed "right' answer. You want them to work to decide what to say. The work is in the mental sifting and choosing of what information to share. :D

3. You are so right that answering questions that take deduction takes time to learn how to do! If your child isn't sure about an answer to a question, you can lead him/her a bit to the answer by saying something like... Do you remember the part in the story when _____? How could that help you answer the question? Or, Did you notice when when Reddy did ____? How could that help you answer the question? :D

Hope that helps!

Blessings,
Carrie

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Re: LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

Post by mom24boys » Sun Sep 05, 2010 10:27 am

Thanks so much Carrie! This has been a huge help. They are both doing better about waiting until the end, or I gently remind them to wait until then end of the reading. My K is even doing better about answering questions. I guess they do start to grow into it. :)

My new (but related) question (for whoever) is my 1st grader (emerging readers). We had the Week 3, Day 5 narration prompt for Samuel on Friday. Now he is almost verbatim telling me the entire story. Everything...God said this, then Samuel said that, then Eli said that, then God said it again...and on and on.

I am COMPLETELY NEW to narration so I really have no clue about it. I wasn't taught this way in public school. So I did some research and came up with this quote from Charlotte Mason: “Narrations which are mere feats of memory are quite valueless.” Given that, how do I move him or encourage him to move toward the "mental sifting and choosing of what information to share" that Carrie spoke about? Will it just happen naturally and I just need to wait for it? Or is there something I should be doing to help him get there?

Thanks for helping the newbie!
Cyndi
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Re: LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

Post by Carrie » Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:39 am

Cyndi,

Yes, you are right that the mental sifting will come over time. However, don't expect it to happen soon! First, be thrilled that the floodgates are open and your child is narrating! HOORAY! :D Next, I'll link you to an old post where I share about the different types of narrators (just scroll down once you click on the link to read my description):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2475&p=18369

Last, I'll share that as we move into the upper HOD guides, kiddos will learn (and be taught) the difference between a summary narration and a detailed narration. By then, they'll have had years of narration practice and easily be able to switch between the two. But, for now, settle in. You have a descriptive narrator on your hands! :D I had one of these myself (and still do)! :D

Blessings,
Carrie

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Re: LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

Post by grandsophy » Tue Sep 07, 2010 2:39 pm

Carrie wrote:Cyndi,

Yes, you are right that the mental sifting will come over time. However, don't expect it to happen soon! First, be thrilled that the floodgates are open and your child is narrating! HOORAY! :D Next, I'll link you to an old post where I share about the different types of narrators (just scroll down once you click on the link to read my description):
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2475&p=18369

Last, I'll share that as we move into the upper HOD guides, kiddos will learn (and be taught) the difference between a summary narration and a detailed narration. By then, they'll have had years of narration practice and easily be able to switch between the two. But, for now, settle in. You have a descriptive narrator on your hands! :D I had one of these myself (and still do)! :D

Blessings,
Carrie
Thanks for that link. Narration scares me, but I'm hearing my oldest begin to do it quite naturally as we discuss American Girl books. While we eat lunch, she shares what she's been reading, and I read to the younger kids their history and devotional readings for the day, and it's fun to share back and forth.
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Kindergarten & 1st Grader: Little Hearts for His Glory, CLE Math, CLE Language

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Re: LHFHG (K & 1) readings.

Post by Carrie » Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:06 pm

You're welcome! :D Narrating can sometimes feel scary to implement, but as you encourage narrating it will get easier and will foster the lifelong habit of retelling what was read. As students mature, narrating then becomes as natural as sharing about a good book with a friend over a cup of tea. Enjoy! :D

Blessings,
Carrie

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