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Beyond Little Hearts for a 5 year old?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 9:40 pm
by carmenFL
My 5 1/2 yr old son is very bright and picks up on things very quickly. From the description chart, he seems beyond what Little Hearts has to offer but maybe not *quite* up to Beyond Little Hearts. For example, he is proficient at writing upper and lower case letters for the most part, but I haven't had him doing any formal copywork yet. He is learning to read....not quite sure he'd be considered an "emergent" reader though. He has gone through all the BOB books and is ready for more.
My 7 1/2 year old daughter definitely places in Beyond Little Hearts....Little Hearts would be a huge step backward for her. With a 3 and 1 year old also, I can't see me being able to swing doing 2 separate programs.
Are there some families here who have used Beyond with a 5 1/2 year old? Any suggestions?

Re: Beyond Little Hearts for a 5 year old?

Posted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 10:05 pm
by sharonb
We started Beyond last spring when my ds was 5.75 years old. For various reasons, we dropped it, but we are returning to HOD this spring, using Bigger for the 8 and 6.75 year olds.

Anyway, the main thing I noticed was that ds just didn't have a very good attention span for the readings, plus he wasn't able to do as much copywork as my dd. Both are areas that he has shown lots of growth in this year, so we would have been fine sticking with Beyond. He still hasn't started the emerging reader set (he will in a few months), but that doesn't matter-- you need to have each child doing the correct level of phonics/reading instruction anyway. Same with math. If you combine your children in a program, you still need make sure they are each doing the correct math and reading options. You can assign less copywork for your son. Last spring my dd was copying the whole poem each week, but my son was only doing a few lines.

Re: Beyond Little Hearts for a 5 year old?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 6:41 am
by mamayi
When we started Beyond this past fall my son had just turned 7 and my dd was not quite 5.5. We were in the same situation you are in with ds being placed just right (he did LHFHG last year) but Beyond being a little bit "beyond" :lol: my dd. What we ended up doing was having her join in the "Learning through History" side and then doing her own level of basics (like The Reading Lesson and A Reason for Handwriting and Singapore Math - all that is from the "right side" of LHFHG). I didn't put a lot of pressure on her to do much beyond the 'basics'. We had our fourth baby in Sept. so there was plenty going on in our household at the beginning of the school year! :D Now though she's really taken off and is doing all of the Learning through History boxes from Beyond and the Language Arts box from the "Learning the Basics" side. (I just started her at the beginning of the spelling lists). I don't require her to do a lot of copywork however. A sentence at a time is just about right for her. I'll give her more as she matures.
I think you can do it but just with the realization that you'll need to adjust a few things for your son.
My only other thought would be to think long term - will he be ready for Bigger when you finish Beyond? I've struggled with that one and may be posting some questions about that soon! :wink:

Re: Beyond Little Hearts for a 5 year old?

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:11 pm
by my3sons
Welcome to the HOD Board! :D Thanks for sharing about each of your precious dc, and I'm so glad you have found HOD. It is such a blessing in our home, and I'm sure it will be in yours too! :D We did begin Beyond with my 5.5 yo ds, and he did well, but needed some time to grow into it. We started half-speed for a bit, and then did it 4 days a week instead of 5 the rest of it, so it took us about a little over a year to get through it all. That extra time was a big help to him. I also only had him copy 1 sentence of the poetry each day, and I had him do "A Reason for Handwriting A", as I felt he still needed to work on his handwriting. He grew into copying all of the poem partway into the year. He was reading well and halfway through the Emerging Reader's Set when we started Beyond, but it is just fine for a child to be doing phonics during Beyond, and is in fact, one of the reading options listed in Beyond's plans. It would just be very important that by the time you get to Bigger Hearts with the 2 of them that his reading and writing skills were quite solid. We've started Bigger Hearts with my almost 7 yo half-speed and will take the rest of this school year and all of next school year to finish it (doing it full-speed next year). We're doing this so he will be in the mid-age range in PHFHG. So, I think as long as you are able to adjust your pacing as necessary, and as long as your youngest ds's reading and writing come along enough to do Bigger Hearts later (even half-speed if need be), than it would be fine. :)

Another option - you could easily have your 5.5 yo do the right side of LHFHG but the left side of Beyond with your older. That would be very easy to do, and would be easy to continue to do as the 2 of them move through guides. Or still one more option, you could certainly separate them and have your oldest do Beyond, and your younger do LHFHG - which from what you've shared sounds like the best placement for them individually, but may not be the best placement for your family goals as a whole. So, based on your desire to combine, I think you could definitely do Beyond with the 2 of them but slow down the pace to possibly 4 days a week, taking a tad longer to do it, and also really working on your younger's reading and writing skills this year to adequately prepare him for BHFHG and to be able to successfully combine him in the future with older dd. :D I think if I were you, I'd start Beyond with the 2 of them, knowing you have to let ds grow into it, possibly having him do the right side of LHFHG instead (or have that as a backup option if you want to try the right side of Beyond with him first), and see if ds can hang with it. I think if he can listen to read alouds with fewer pictures and can grow in his reading/writing skills, he'll do terrific! :)

These are all just ideas to consider - you will certainly know what clicks the best for you and your dc! Beyond is great fun to do, and such a joy to teach, but so is LHFHG - so that can always be a backup option. Keep asking questions here until you get your placement fine-tuned so you have a peace about it! HTH - and I look forward to getting to know you here!:D

In Christ,
Julie