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Comma Usage in Dictation Passages - Inconsistent?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:08 am
by homeforhim
Hello Ladies,

I am hugely impressed with the dictation included in the Preparing and Creation to Christ guides and we are loving HOD! I am not a grammar "guru" by any means but have noticed that comma usage seems to vary or not be what I would expect in some passages. For example, in the Preparing guide, both number 3 and 5 have items in a series. Number three reads "... a root, a stem, and leaves" and number five reads "In March, April, May and June.." Now, I believe the R&S texts (I looked ahead) explain that commas in series include the word right before "and." Both ways are correct (in Canada actually we don't usually put the comma before the "and" in a series) but I wanted to have a rule for my kids to follow and so thought we would do what R&S is going to teach us. I also thought that convention would be reflected in the passages. Is there a difference because the word "a" preceeds each item in number 3?

Also, in the CTC guide, number 5 dictation says, "He's very sorry now, because his grandma, who is dead gave it to him on his birthday." I thought there should be a comma after "dead" as you do naturally pause there when reading and didn't think one was necessarily needed after "now." Clear as mud? :D I insist the kids have it perfect including punctuation so it makes it difficult if it is not consistent in the models. This is not a big issue - I side with the book and tell them it has to be as written there. Just looking for clarification or explanation? Has anyone else noticed this or am I making a mountain out of a molehill? :)

Blessings,
Rachael

Re: Comma Usage in Dictation Passages - Inconsistent?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:42 am
by water2wine
Just editing because my post was not correct. Don't want to confuse anyone. :D

Re: Comma Usage in Dictation Passages - Inconsistent?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:47 am
by Daisy
Completely agreeing with your examples. We discuss the commas in the passage and if either of us has a good reason for omitting or adding a comma somewhere else we do so. In some cases commas are subjective. That said, my rule is that changes to the dictation passage have to be done in advance. There is no trying to convince me afterward that she didn't really need that missed comma anyway. LOL.

Re: Comma Usage in Dictation Passages - Inconsistent?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 11:57 am
by water2wine
Daisy wrote:Completely agreeing with your examples. We discuss the commas in the passage and if either of us has a good reason for omitting or adding a comma somewhere else we do so. In some cases commas are subjective. That said, my rule is that changes to the dictation passage have to be done in advance. There is no trying to convince me afterward that she didn't really need that missed comma anyway. LOL.
Hahaha! That is a good rule to have!

Re: Comma Usage in Dictation Passages - Inconsistent?

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:09 pm
by my3sons
All of the dictation passages are taken directly from Dictation Day by Day: Book One or Book 2 by Kate Van Wagenen (MacMillan Company 1916, 1923). They are written exactly as they were in these books in order to preserve their form. Of course, you can always modify them if you wish. :wink: These books have stood the test of time and were suggested for use on Ambleside. Carrie is blessed to have obtained them as they are difficult and almost near to impossible to find. The copies she has even had leaves and flowers pressed between the pages - and notes in the margins. It felt as if we were holding a special piece of history in our hands as we went through them. :)

In Christ,
Julie