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Auditory Processing Disorder and Rhyming

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 3:18 pm
by Nealewill
I am wondering if anyone on her has a child that might be older that has auditory processing disorder as well. My son has it and struggles with things like rhyming. He will be 9 next month and still can't rhyme words....at all! What I have to do with him is show him the word, we break off the first sound and then add consonants while he looks at the alphabet to make a new word. If I don't do this, he always, and I mean ALWAYS will have the first sound of two words be the same instead of the end. For example, if I said what word rhymes with star, he would say start. We did rhyming the R&S book in Bigger and it was a major disaster without me very literally walking him through the rhyming process for every single word. And he has never been able to rhyme. At this point, I don't even get frustrated anymore. I already know what to expect.

I am just curious if anyone on here has a had similar problem and if it eventually just went away. Next year in Preparing there will be a lot more rhyming with some of the writing activities. I am fully prepared to hold his hand then too if need be. But all I do know is that if he never learns to rhyme and he wants his kids to be homeschool, I seriously hope that he is not in charge of teaching any of them to rhyme LOL.

Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Rhyming

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 4:31 pm
by bethelmommy
My oldest ds(9) has auditory processing issues along with Cerebral Palsy and High Functioning Autism. Rhyming is not really a problem for him (processing multiple step instructions and responding in general to verbal instructions are more of an issue). Anyway, we always play word games as a family while driving in a car or waiting at a restaurant. Right now we are focusing on teaching my 4 year old beginning sounds- "How many words can you think of that start with the 'b' sound?" All the kids join in with answers- baby, boy, boat, bat, banana, etc... We have also done this with rhyming. "How many words can you think of that rhyme with star?" You can start with other kids jumping in with examples to give your son ideas- car, far, mar, tar, etc... With time,repetition ,and experience your son will likely start to get it. I do know my ds did not have this skill in Beyond. He developed it more in Bigger while dd seemed to 'get' rhyming at a very early age.

Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Rhyming

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 6:39 pm
by Mumkins
My 9yo APD (and VPD) daughter doesn't struggle with this. I'm not sure if she did before. She's just now reading independently, and the past few years seem like a blur of tears, stress and worry. I remember things like not being able to follow multiple step directions or filtering out noise to be able to focus on what's being said to her. I see we are nearing the other side. All About Reading was very, very helpful. How's his reading? Pre level 1 teaches letters and sounds. But, it also focuses on rhyming. An example of one rhyming game is you have 3 cards, 2 rhyme, one doesn't, pick out the card that doesn't rhyme. It's kinda babyish as you put them in a wagon. You're often suppose to talk with a puppet. But, if you reworded the games and ditched the puppet, I think they'd really help him. After completing AAR 3, we moved into the Emergent Readers. We're now on to the level 2 book pack.

Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Rhyming

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 8:42 pm
by Nealewill
Thank you so much ladies.

Bethelmommy - It looks like your son is 9 that you are referring too? Maybe he will just out grow it. I will have to having all the kids get in on some rhyming fun this summer. The beginning sounds, he nails it :-) It like the end of the word gets lost in his brain LOL :-) But if we can turn it into game, maybe that will help. Maybe a card game? I don't know :-) He does really well with seeing and touching. But I would definitely love for it turn into a speaking game if that makes sense.

Mumkins - I actually did end up using AAR 2 & 3 to teach him how to read. He reads very well. He is getting better at picking the words that rhyme at the end of the poetry. At the beginning of the year, I had to point it out EVERY TIME!!!!! But now we are in unit 30 and he is 50/50. We just did a rhyming activity in the R&S book similar to what you mentioned here with the pre-reading activity and he did a great job with that! He had to match up the words that rhymed. He needed very little help. Praise GOD. But when he has to start from scratch and come up with his own word, there is our biggest challenge. But even with the poems, I think the poems just have a lot more words making the rhyming scheme difficult to hear. Plus, I already know he does not hear the rhythm at all. I have to help him every week with this. So I just don't think he hear the rhyme. Even with spelling, I used AAS with my oldest before finding HOD and it taught her how to spell very well. With my son, I would have thought it would be a win. It was a total fail! He can't hear any soft letters in any words. For example, if he were to spell king, he would spell it kig. Or sometimes he flip flops letter. For example, if he were to spell the word test, he may spell it tset. He can't "hear" where the "s" goes. So I just don't think he hears it. Dictation is the way to go for him. As for reading, Level 2 got him reading multi-syllable words. Level 3 expanded his practice and abilities in reading. After level 3, we went to reading living books again. My oldest had a lot of reading struggles so I actually thought he had the same thing. But he was also very different. He pretty much had no language. He had a 15 word vocabulary at 4 years old. So he needed to build up his language to be able to read. AAR made it so that he could have a plan of attach to sound out a word when he no idea if the word he came up with was a real word. For example, baby - he would make the "a" long or short. It didn't matter. He didn't know what a baby was. Both words sounded fine. His vocab has grown tremendously because he can read now (about the last 3 months he is when reading really took off) and I read to him all the time or he listens to books on tape. He completely lacks language and I have since found out that immersing him in language all the time is what will grow his vocabulary and get him closer to par. In that sense, HOD is perfect!

Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Rhyming

Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 11:17 pm
by bethelmommy
Yes, my ds is 9 and I do think your ds will grow out of it (or into the ability as the case may be:). Any fun activities that can help him along just might make it happen a bit sooner. We did AAR pre-level 1 when ds was 4-5yrs old and the rhyming didn't click at all at that age. Dd always blurted out the right answer first. I am sure there is a rhyming card game or something similar that exists that you could get and play for fun. Or, you could just print rhyming pictures from on line and make up your own game. Another word game we like to play is for practicing alliterations with names. For example, Terry takes tater tots to tea. We do all of this orally so it is great auditory practice :D .

Re: Auditory Processing Disorder and Rhyming

Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 5:51 am
by Nealewill
Thanks bethelmommy - we will have to try some of the alliteration games as well. And good to know your 9 year can now do it. Maybe my 8 (almost 9) year is right on the cusps of getting it. Maybe not. Who knows LOL. Thanks