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spelling question
Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2014 6:42 pm
by hs.mama07
Hi ladies! My DS6 is in Beyond and we're doing spelling list 1. The guide talks about the importance of visualizing the word, but I've noticed that he prefers to use auditory methods of spelling (sounding out or saying the letters out loud to himself) and does a lot better with these than visualizing. I've also noticed he does better if I explain any phonics/spelling rules that might be applicable. He tries to visualize, but it doesn't seem to help him much (he says he just can't see the word). In preparing for dictation, is there any harm in using all three approaches auditory, visual, and rules...or is it better to focus them on the visualizing side? I know other spelling curricula use multiple techniques, but I wasn't sure how it works with dictation/HOD. (and if I let him do all three, I'm sure the visual would become less used b/c it's weakest for him, if that makes sense).
Thanks, as always!

Re: spelling question
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 4:48 am
by Nealewill
That is a great question. I think many people have many thoughts on this but at some point, your child will eventually need to remember which phonogram makes which phonetic sound for each word. For example, there are several ways to spell the long a. You can spell it with a_e (silent e at the end), ai, ay, or eight (and there may one more). "A" also makes other sounds. It says "u" at the beginning of the word (again) or I can say "u" through out (banana). I can also just say it's short sound or its long sound. Phonics can be confusing LOL.
So I share all of this to say, I think if he is catching on to hearing the phonics, that is great! It will help him when he goes further. I would definitely encourage that. And he will be able to see and hear it action as as many of words in the word lists have similar types of words each week. However, even with phonics based spelling programs, eventually, kids have to memorize which words are spelled how. I only say this because my oldest is dyslexic and my son has auditory processing disorder. Both at this point still use a dyslexic spelling program (my son is using a dyslexic reading program this year too as those programs work very well for APD children). My oldest is now at a point where she is memorize words that are spelled with certain sounds just like you would memorize dictation. And she has sentences that she uses to memorize as well. She has more activities she does for spelling than you would do with dictation but she really needs them.
I personally do think that dictation is a great way to learn to spell. Eventually each of my kids will switch to dictation because I think it is very important to be able to visualize a word in context. I was thinking about switching my oldest this year but she still had a few things I thought she needed to learn so she will switch next year. As for my son, he probably won't switch for a few years because he still has a lot of things he needs to work through before he is ready to visualize anything. My youngest, she just does spelling with her brother because she can and this helps cut down on my teaching time

. I know my answer is not very CM and that I have 2 kids with special learning needs but I think your son will do great with the lists even if this year he is saying it out loud and sounding it out. He is still burning those sounds into his mind to associate with that word.
Re: spelling question
Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2014 3:38 pm
by MelInKansas
I think adding the different ways of interacting with the word and spelling is fine. Depending on how good of readers they are, visualizing may not be a good primary way to learn the words yet anyway. Make sure the visual is there and try to do it the way described in the guide, but if you add in the auditory interaction that's fine too. My 2nd born needed some of that when we first started spelling, and I would say that visual is still not her strongest way to learn spelling.
Listening and hearing the sounds are really valuable when learning to spell too, though without more concrete rules it is difficult to distinguish between all of the different spellings of certain sounds - as Nealewill mentioned. The spelling lists do categorize words and give them groups that have similar rules, but rules are not really learned or discussed so sounding out is not that effective in that case. Visualization is really how I learned to spell and works well.
Re: spelling question
Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 6:46 am
by hs.mama07
Thanks so much ladies. I have never been a very good speller, so wasn't sure the best path to take. I appreciate your advice!