HOD, MFW, Konos...Oh My!

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MarciaA
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HOD, MFW, Konos...Oh My!

Post by MarciaA » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:03 pm

I am so overwhelmed with this curriculum choice ladies, and I NEED some "been there, done that" expertise!

I have narrowed down to Little Hearts (top choice now, btw), MFW-K and Konos-Vol.1 (second choice). Obviously I want unit studies, hands on, Bible centered, etc. which all of these seem to cover well. I don't want to "bash" MFW or Konos as we all know they are fine programs that work for many, but I need true, honest feedback if you have experience with any of these and can help compare these for me.

Can anyone compare these three for me????

I will be starting K with a 5 year old, who has been in preschool 3 years. He recites numbers 1-20 (and sometimes 100 :wink: ), id's all letters and most sounds in isolation but hasn't begun to blend them, and is a wigglly worm. I am a former public school teacher, so the planning part doesn't scare me too much regarding unit studies.

How long do you spend on LHFHG on an average day? How many days per week?

Any help is appreciated!!!
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Post by beandip71 » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:25 pm

Hi and welcome to the boards! :D I have no experience with MFW or Konos, but I did use Little Hearts for K with my dd. We just finished last week and we both enjoyed it very much. It usually took us 60 to 90 minutes to complete the program each day. That includes an extra read aloud and some of my own things for science (which you don't need BTW). I normally did the program 5 days a week, but there were some weeks when we did less. HTH!

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Re: HOD, MFW, Konos...Oh My!

Post by MamaMary » Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:31 pm

MarciaA wrote:I am so overwhelmed with this curriculum choice ladies, and I NEED some "been there, done that" expertise!

I have narrowed down to Little Hearts (top choice now, btw), MFW-K and Konos-Vol.1 (second choice). Obviously I want unit studies, hands on, Bible centered, etc. which all of these seem to cover well. I don't want to "bash" MFW or Konos as we all know they are fine programs that work for many, but I need true, honest feedback if you have experience with any of these and can help compare these for me.

Can anyone compare these three for me????

I will be starting K with a 5 year old, who has been in preschool 3 years. He recites numbers 1-20 (and sometimes 100 :wink: ), id's all letters and most sounds in isolation but hasn't begun to blend them, and is a wigglly worm. I am a former public school teacher, so the planning part doesn't scare me too much regarding unit studies.

How long do you spend on LHFHG on an average day? How many days per week?

Any help is appreciated!!!
Hi Marcia,

Welcome to the HOD boards! How exciting that you are beginning your first year of home education. When I started homeschooling (11 years ago) my very first curriculum was KONOS volume one. I LOVED it! The problem was that it didn't love me? I found myself very spurty and that it was too easy for me to go off on rabbit trails and as we dug deep there were many things never covered. I also found it to be very time intensive which I loved at first, but as we added more children to our home this became very difficult.

What I love about HOD compared to all the programs out there is that it is a wonderfully balanced[/b] program. Carrie gives you a complete meal. We are having so much FUN and getting an enormous amount accomplished compared to when we have tried other unit studies.

However, that doesn't mean you would have the same experience I had? I am stopping now Marcia and praying that the Lord would capture your heart and push it hard in the direction HE has for you!

God Bless YOU!
Mary
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Post by mom2boys030507 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 6:23 am

I cannot speak to the other programs. I did look at MFW K and it looked like to much planning for me and my son was beyond the phonics.

We spend about 60-90 min on LHFHG many times breaking it up through out the day. We basically never do our read alouds close to the time we are doing the rest of school. We school 3-4 days per week here. We don't have a schedule, it really depends on when we have therapy, classes at the YMCA, or just decide to go to the Zoo. Sometimes we do get school done on days we do other things sometimes not. We have 9 days left of LHFHG and we started at the end of July 07. I find the program to be very flexible and it allows me to have frequent interuptions yet still know where I am and what I need to finish to complete a day.

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I am using MFWK and I will tell you this...

Post by blessedx5 » Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:17 am

the ONLY thing I didn't like about the MFWK is that the phonics portion of the curriculum is encompassed within the daily schedule. In other words if your child moves fast through the phonics (like mine has) he/she can either be a bit bored and move slowly through as it is scheduled OR get creative and add some things or revamp the phonics lessons to suit your needs.

I also think the phonics is a bit difficult to maneuver through in the manual...but once you get used it what to do you want need to refer to the manual very much.



HTH

Debbie

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Post by shera » Fri Jun 13, 2008 9:17 am

I used MFW K and I am currently using LHFHG. I really enjoyed MFW K, but I did have to tweak it. Surprisingly I didn't have any trouble tweaking the phonics portion of it. A lot of people say that LHFHG is more advanced than MFW K. So most people having completed MFW K place into LHFHG. LHFHG takes about 1.5 hrs. To me HOD seems to have a little bit more hand holding for lack of a better word. In other words, there are guided questions for the Bible study that are open ended. For ex. what does peace mean? Give an example. The memory verse applies to the history and the storytime. In MFW K instead of memory verses they are character traits. For ex. the horse unit is I obey right away. The leaf unit is I will live and grow in Jesus.

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Post by Melanie » Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:16 am

Hi Marcia!
I did use MFW K before using Little Hearts. I am a HODie for life, but I won't lie to you, we loved MFW K. It was the perfect fit for my kiddos but, it was their preschool, K year and I had done nothing with them (except read and puzzles and lots of art and play :wink: ).

I do think that Little Hearts is more advanced than MFW k, and based on the info you gave about your son, I'd say he would be ready for Little Hearts and past the math and phonics for MFW k.

:D Mel
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Post by amysconfections » Fri Jun 13, 2008 1:18 pm

Choosing curriculum is hard. There are so many tempting choices out there. We used LHFHG and loved it for K. So, of course this year we will do BLHFHG. I can't offer much help because I've only used HOD. What I did like for my first year is having it all planned out for me. It was simple but covered alot of material. I think I might have overdone it with my own planning in curriculum. LHFHG is just the right amount without overdoing.
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Post by dolphingirl » Fri Jun 13, 2008 3:38 pm

I have four children (the oldest just turned eight), and we have used KONOS the past two years. Just wrapping up our year today! We love KONOS and my kids have learned a lot. I'm a former public school teacher as well, and my husband is a teacher as well, so the whole concept of planning did not scare me at all and it's been fun bouncing ideas off of dh too. However, this past year it seems like my house completely got out of control (okay, it's a mess!) and my soon to be 1 year old is absolutely into everything and I know that will not let up for next year. Between these two factors, it just seems like I got a bit burnt out the past few months and am craving something that is "right there" for me. Many times, if I didn't have time to plan or gather materials or get to the library, well, then school just didn't happen! I don't want that to happen next year, and there are so many things that I love about HOD that we're so excited to try! Also, while KONOS is based on biblical character traits, there is only a small amount of actual tie-in with the Bible that can be shared with the kids (unless it's actually a Bible-based unit like the tabernacle) So, after a couple days in the unit, there wasn't much left to talk about in terms of tie-in with the Bible (other than reiterating what we had already talked about.) I LOVE how HOD ties in the Bible EVERY DAY with what we're studying. We love reading library books rather than textbooks, but sometimes I get frustrated with KONOS in that none of the information is ever "right there" for you. You have to seek everything out (well, some of it is written there in the curriculum for you, but mostly you have to find books and/or websites that have the information to teach your children). Now, usually I wouldn't mind this, but as we add more kids to our family, I'm finding my time much more limited! I absolutely love the living books that Carrie has chosen for the program. I can't wait to read them to the kids!!! Yet it's flexible enough that if I have the time and desire to add additional library books I can. But if not, school can still go on! Same thing with hands-on activities. If I have the time or desire to add something, I can, but it won't be necessary, only if we really want to. With KONOS, we've sometime come to a standstill for a couple days because I haven't had time to get to the store or library.
I do like being able to teach all my children together, which is something I'm still trying to figure out if/what we'll be combining with HOD. However, in your case, your 5 year old is the oldest so it's not as crucial for you. Honestly, you could do KONOS with a 5 year old, but you'd definitely want to do the concepts from Vol. 1 again when he's older because you won't be able to go into depth as much right now as you will be able to when he's older. I would suggest using HOD---I think it's much more suitable agewise for him and then if you still have the desire to try KONOS in a couple years, try it then. He would get much more out of it then than he could now. You'd really only be able to scratch the surface with him on the topics right now, whereas with HOD Little Hearts, everything would be very age appropriate for him yet deep. Also, if the tie-in with Bible is important to you, HOD will give you MUCH more to talk with him about, as well as the character traits that are discussed in the Burgess storytime books.
So we may very well use KONOS again someday, and we'll probably add in some of the activities as we learn US History, but for now, I'm looking forward to the cohesiveness of HOD and the fact that I won't need to get stressed out if I don't have the materials or books I need for that day.
I also think my older son will do much better having more of a pattern to his days (since lessons are wonderfully varied yet there's still a sense of predictability to how things are done with the science notebook and so on) rather than having such a mishmash of activities each day. Hope this helps! Both of them are wonderful curriculums but very different!
Kristin

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Post by MainelyJen » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:11 am

I'm here on the boards because I'm trying to discern which program to do with my son this fall. You would think the choices would become easier as you go along (this will be our ninth year homeschooling! LOL).

I just wanted to say that dolphingirl really hit the nail on the head with her two comments in the previous post:

"Many times, if I didn't have time to plan or gather materials or get to the library, well, then school just didn't happen!"

and

"Yet it's flexible enough that if I have the time and desire to add additional library books I can. But if not, school can still go on!"

I can "Amen!" that! It has been my unit study experience that it was just too easy to let things slip for a day (or more!) due to lack of preparation or overpreparation. I've seen this with other moms as well. Those little slips can then make mom feel guilty, disorganized, like she is failing. That can begin a cycle of feeling so "burdened," that you reach "burnout"! Yes, even with just little ones.

Finally, you have a 1 yr old. You want to enjoy that precious blessing and not tie yourself down to a high prep program this year. So, I'd vote for HOD in your case!
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Post by pjdobro » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:01 am

I can't help with the comparisons as I winged it on my own last year and spent way too much time planning my dc's K year :wink: I'm a new HOD user and looking forward to having my guide ready to go this year. I just wanted to say welcome to the board from another North Carolinian :D
Patty in NC

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Post by MarciaA » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:04 pm

pjdobro wrote: I just wanted to say welcome to the board from another North Carolinian :D
Thanks!! I am in Fuquay Varina...where are you?
Homeschooling Mommy in NC to
Jackson, K
and one wild 1 year old, Carson

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Post by Mom25 » Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:15 pm

We just finished MFWK with our 6yo who had three years of preschool and was about a year behind other kids his age emotionally and otherwise. We love MFW, but I would recommend you go with LHFHG (even though I've never used it, but I have poured over it). I'm wishing I had done this with my K son this past year, as he was exactly where your son is now. Basically, he whizzed through the phonics and math portions and I had to add to it to keep him challenged. I ended up using just the Bible and science portions (which were wonderful). MFWK would be perfect for preschool, and I don't think you want him to have a 4th year of that!?! HTH!

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Post by pjdobro » Sun Jun 15, 2008 8:00 pm

Thanks!! I am in Fuquay Varina...where are you?
I have no idea where that is :lol: I'm in the piedmont triad area. We've only been here a few years. I did spend my early growing up years in the western part of the state, but I'm still not that knowledgeable with the whole state :oops:
Patty in NC

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Post by MarciaA » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:45 am

pjdobro wrote:
Thanks!! I am in Fuquay Varina...where are you?
I have no idea where that is :lol: I'm in the piedmont triad area. We've only been here a few years. I did spend my early growing up years in the western part of the state, but I'm still not that knowledgeable with the whole state :oops:
Sorry...it's 30 mins south of Raleigh. And no one knows where it is, and many people that live here still can't pronouce it :lol:
I'm an NC native though-glad to "meet" you.
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and one wild 1 year old, Carson

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