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Should I combine my two boys in Beyond?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 3:13 pm
by Caroline
I'm so torn on what I should do! I have two boys who will be 7 and 9 in October. Then we have 3 girls, 4, 2, and 7 months. I was planning on putting my 8 year old in Bigger, my 6 year old in Beyond, and our 4 and 2 year old in Little Hands together. Someone suggested that I combine the two older boys in Beyond together. They both could handle doing Bigger right now, but my second son will not be ready for Preparing next year, which is why I was going to separate them. I just don't think that Beyond is quite challenging enough for my oldest, I really wish it had an extension pack to it! Any thoughts? This is our first year using HOD. Oh, here is a blog post I did outlining what I was going to do if it makes it any easier: http://www.themodestmomblog.com/2012/08 ... a-link-up/

Re: Should I combine my two boys in Beyond?

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2012 5:28 pm
by mom23
Actually, if they could both handle Bigger right now I'd be more inclined to combine them in that guide at half speed, so as not to rush your younger guy into Preparing before he's ready. I'm afraid your older ds would not be challenged enough with Beyond, and I found it was difficult to add to that guide and make it enough. With Bigger at half speed you could add on extensions for your older ds, if he's needing more to fill out his day.

Re: Should I combine my two boys in Beyond?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 7:49 am
by momtofive
Hi Caroline! First I want to welcome you to Heart of Dakota! :D

One thing you really want to make sure of is that each of your children is placed correctly. That makes such a difference in how the program will work for your children and for you as their teacher. When we did Beyond two years ago, I combined my then almost 7 year old with my almost 9 year old. So that's pretty close to what you're talking about in the ages of your little guys. It was a great year, but I noticed that my older guy wasn't really challenged, which he thought was great, however, I started to see some laziness in learning creeping in. My younger child was adequately challenged and did really well that year, had a lot of fun, and learned so much! The next year, I separated them, and wow what a difference. My older child just excelled in his own guide, and the younger was still adequately challenged. Now, it takes a lot more work to seperate once combined children. I had to take one child and do half speed for a while and the other at full speed. I really wish that I'd just put my older in Bigger and my younger in Beyond way back two years ago when we started.

Sometimes the combining scenario can be such a blessing to families, but at least in our home, it didn't work out so well. I can see it working better if the children you're trying to combine are closer in age and ability. It sounds like a lot of work to do two guides at one time, but it really isn't. You just map out your day by taking a section of the morning and doing certain boxes with the younger one, then a few boxes with the older one. Then math or english with one, then the other. By working with one and having the other one do some independent type things, you'll manage your time, while keeping everyone busy. Beyond really doesn't take all that much time, and there are quite a few things that your older little guy can work on independently in Bigger, while you work with your little girls or your younger son.

This year we'll be doing three guides, and I have no doubt that it'll work out just fine. Next year we'll actually be doing five guides, because all five of my sweeties will be ready for their own guides. (Right now we have a little one that's not ready for Beyond yet, but will be next year! And one littler one who will do LHFHG next year, too!) I'm really not worried about teaching so many guides, because as you go up in the line-up of guides, they work the children to more independence in learning. Mom, of course, is still involved in each guide, and has precious learning time together with the children (doing several of the boxes together), but the bulk of the guide is done independently by the student, with mom doing meeting or check in times through the day.

My best encouragement for this situation, would be to really look over the placement chart again, making sure that each one really fits in the guide you're thinking on, and then to pray about it. It may be that combining ends up being such a blessing for your family, it may be that doing them seperately is the way to go, Either way, you've landed on a great curriculum that is Christ-centered and God honoring! (And a lot of fun, I might add! :wink: )

Keep asking questions here on the board when you have them, the ladies here are so helpful! :wink:

Re: Should I combine my two boys in Beyond?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:15 am
by Caroline
Thank you so much for that reply Lisa! We start school tomorrow, (I'm just doing a fun opening day getting them used to everything), and I think we will just start out with separate guides and see how it goes. I'm SOOO excited to start HOD! I was home schooled k-12 and my Mom used Charlotte Mason methods to homeschool me in high school. I am the youngest of three though, so it's quite different having five young children to try and juggle. :) My mom passed away two years ago, and she would have been SOO thrilled that I found HOD, as it is the perfect mix of Charlotte Mason yet planned for me. :)

Re: Should I combine my two boys in Beyond?

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 9:48 am
by momtofive
So glad that you're so excited to start! That will surely help your kids to be positive about their school year! :wink:

I've read on this board that it takes a good month to really get a feel for how things are going to work. It takes time for our children to fall into a routine of knowing what's expected from each part of the guide and how to do that. It's just good to keep this in mind, as sometimes the first days might get a little tricky trying to manage everything. But know that in time, things should fall into place, and be an enjoyable experience for all! :D

I was public schooled all of my years of schooling and let me just say, that HOD is what I wish I could have grown up with, instead! I just love the quality poured into every box in the plans. Carrie Austin is so talented and has given her heart to the Lord in the work of writing guides and helping families educate their children for God's glory! I encourage you to read some of the posts on the top of the board (the "stickies") that go into further detail into the why behind each book choice, and how they progress the skills taught in each guide. They definitely build on each other, and there is purpose behind everything written in the guides. Here are a few links: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6248 which talks about the reasons behind some of the curriculum choices, and viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9344 which is a post of common questions people sometimes have.

Our homeschooling experience has definitely changed for the better since beginning HOD two years ago. My oldest son (who started out with Preparing, and is now in RTR), has said that he absolutely LOVES HOD and never wants to do anything else for school! The combination of a Christ-centered curriculum, living books, and lots of opportunities to share my heart with my children, as well as hear their hearts through our discussion times is truly priceless. Three of my children have accepted the Lord during our time using HOD. I'm not saying that HOD made that happen, but it surely opened the door for discussion of topics that helped them to see Him more clearly. At the end of the day, I want to know that I didn't just check off boxes on a list, but truly pointed their hearts to the Lord! :wink: And I feel that this happens so easily using HOD than I've experienced with other curriculums.

I pray you have a very blessed school year with HOD, and that it's truly for His glory! :D

Re: Should I combine my two boys in Beyond?

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:13 pm
by my3sons
Caroline - I just wanted to say "hi!" and welcome you to the HOD Board! :D These ladies are amazing, and I am excited for you to be a part of this! :D It sounds like you have a good plan, and I agree to give it some time to see how it goes. We too have found it often takes about a month to find our groove. I just really enjoyed reading Lisa's response, especially this part here...

Our homeschooling experience has definitely changed for the better since beginning HOD two years ago. My oldest son (who started out with Preparing, and is now in RTR), has said that he absolutely LOVES HOD and never wants to do anything else for school! The combination of a Christ-centered curriculum, living books, and lots of opportunities to share my heart with my children, as well as hear their hearts through our discussion times is truly priceless. Three of my children have accepted the Lord during our time using HOD. I'm not saying that HOD made that happen, but it surely opened the door for discussion of topics that helped them to see Him more clearly. At the end of the day, I want to know that I didn't just check off boxes on a list, but truly pointed their hearts to the Lord! And I feel that this happens so easily using HOD than I've experienced with other curriculums.

This is so what it's all about! I pray that you have a wonderful year with HOD too, whether you end up using 2 guides or 1. I will echo that it is not hard to do multiple HOD guides, but I know the Lord will make clear what is best for your dc as far as placement. Just know we are all here to help! Also, I am so glad that you and your mom had those special years together when she homeschooled you, and I am so sorry for your loss of her. She would certainly be so proud of you for carrying on the tradition of homeschooling your dc with Christ at the center of it all and Charlotte Mason's ideals throughout! May the Lord richly bless your homeschooling year with HOD.

In Christ,
Julie