Dictation Level Placement question

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jkhamell
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Dictation Level Placement question

Post by jkhamell » Sat Jul 28, 2012 2:03 pm

I need some help knowing how to place my dc in the right level for dictation.

I will be teaching Rev. to Rev. to my 11yr old 6th grader and my 13 yr. old 8th grader. Any suggestions? A way to test which level would be best for them?
Thank you,
Kim
Kim
Starting HOD for the first time 9/2012
dd 13: Rev to Rev
dd 11: Rev to Rev
dd 9: Preparing
dd 7: Beyond
dd 3: Little Hands January 2013

my3sons
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Re: Dictation Level Placement question

Post by my3sons » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:12 am

I'd be glad to help! :D Have they done dictation before? What kind of spellers in general would you say they each are? Thanks!

In Christ,
Julie
Enjoyed LHTH to USII
Currently using USI
Wife to Rich for 28 years
Mother to 3 sons, ages 23, 20, and 16
Sister to Carrie

jkhamell
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Re: Dictation Level Placement question

Post by jkhamell » Wed Aug 08, 2012 7:35 pm

13 year old is a great speller and reader. I see the benefit of dictation in improving proof reading skills and developing other skills. She reads and comprehends at a mid highschool level. We have never done dictation

11 year old is not a good speller. Proof reading is poor. Visual memory not good. Struggles using common word parts in spelling to create words while writing. I suspect mild dyslexia as I look back over her learning career in this area never done studied dictation

While I've got you on the topic. 4 th grader is dyslexic. How does dictation and word study benefit this type of learner versus an approach like AAS of sequential spelling. Ive taken several training classes as a reading therapist and know that developing the minds eye, using context and word meaning are just as important as explicit letter sound pattern study. Am I starting to get the idea about the benefits if dictation. Any links addressing studied dictation and dyslexia would be great. I have a feeling that this may be the missing link in applying the spelling patterns we have learned and recognizing when a word looks wrong.

Thanks for help placing my older 2. I will check back more frequently
Kim
Starting HOD for the first time 9/2012
dd 13: Rev to Rev
dd 11: Rev to Rev
dd 9: Preparing
dd 7: Beyond
dd 3: Little Hands January 2013

my3sons
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Re: Dictation Level Placement question

Post by my3sons » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:33 pm

jkhamell wrote:13 year old is a great speller and reader. I see the benefit of dictation in improving proof reading skills and developing other skills. She reads and comprehends at a mid highschool level. We have never done dictation
I think I'd try Level 7 with her and see how that goes. :D In general, I think a dictation level is a fairly good fit when a student is missing around a passage or possibly two passages each week. If the student is repeating each passage two days in a row, an easier level may be needed. If a student never misses a passage within several weeks to a month, a harder level may be needed. There are levels 5, 6, 7, and 8 included in the RevtoRev Appendix.
jkhamell wrote:11 year old is not a good speller. Proof reading is poor. Visual memory not good. Struggles using common word parts in spelling to create words while writing. I suspect mild dyslexia as I look back over her learning career in this area never done studied dictation
I'd start her in level 5 and see how that goes, applying the same thinking about levels I mentioned above. :D
jkhamell wrote:...Any links addressing studied dictation and dyslexia would be great. I have a feeling that this may be the missing link in applying the spelling patterns we have learned and recognizing when a word looks wrong...
Here are some past threads that will give more information about dictation that should be helpful. I agree dictation is often the missing link for applying spelling patterns. It has helped my oldest ds, who had several years of speech therapy, be able to recognize when a word looks wrong, as well as be able to decrease the number of errors in his spelling every year. Moving sequentially through the dictation passages HOD provides has helped him become a good speller today. HTH!

Carrie explains CM Dictation:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5661
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5186
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=925

Encouraging Dictation:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4877
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5558

In Christ,
Julie
Enjoyed LHTH to USII
Currently using USI
Wife to Rich for 28 years
Mother to 3 sons, ages 23, 20, and 16
Sister to Carrie

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