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Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:31 pm
by honeymomma4
I am having trouble figuring a schedule for one program for my 4 kidsl. I'd love to do the LHTH program with my DD as well. I just don't feel organized enough.
Our baby's naps keep flipping. One day he is up at 6:30 and needs 2 naps. the next day I sleep in (and so does he) and we take a morning trip to the library and he naps in the afternoon.

i can NOT figure out what the best things is for ALL my kids. PLUS our house is very echoy so we have to either complete the quiet work in the kitchen when the baby naps OR move to the lower playroom which means lugging all our stuff. So none of the Noise stuff (like the science time) would work during the baby's naps but I CAN schedule it for when he wakes up. It's just that I don't want to drag school out all day. I'd like to be done by 2pm maybe and be able to rest a little or get some stuff done. I just don't know how to do this.

If we do the left side of LHFHG (except for the science/art) in the morning I feel like 3yo DD is missing out and i shoudl be doing LHTH with her. but maybe LHFHG is enough for all my kids together. please help!

My kids are 7.5, 5, 3, and 1 and I am 6wks preggo! THANKS!

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:50 pm
by honeymomma4
I think the hang up for me is the transitions. Nothing is consistent from day to day. Science is not every day but also it is not always involve materials that we do at the table. Art is not every day. Then when I look @ the LHTH crafts are not every day. The letter activity SOMETIMES is a craft. These I have to plan out and have DD sit at the table. the trouble is the transition. i can't have the baby sitting @ the table for the whole page of LHTH. But I never know what do do first. I don't know why this is causing me so much trouble. it is like something is making a disconnect in my brain. when I look at the LHTH manual i start to get fuzzy and can't make sense out of the order of things. HELP!

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:36 pm
by big sky
I've only finished 3 units of LHFHG so my advice is limited, but my younger children are similar in age to yours. First I took the time to decide what subjects I felt needed to be done independently and what we could combine. I really resisted taking individual time with my littles ( I felt like that messed with my idea of a happy family all learning joyfully at the table together),but finally gave up trying to combine everyone at the table since it didn't create joy and just didn't work consistently.....
so first I take 15m with my youngest dd2.5 sitting at the table with puzzles, games ect.
Next for table time is my oldest dd6.5 for 30m to work on spelling, math and copywork/handwriting (during this time my ds5 plays with dd 2.5 and earns a sticker if he attempts to keep her happy-they build with blocks, play, ect).
Last is ds5 for table time to work on math activity from LHFHG and fine motor skills -about 15-20m (dd7 plays with dd 2.5)
This morning time takes about 1.5 hours with all the distractions we are working through! But I schedule 30m per child so it works out fine. Then we have our am snack and I work with my oldest dd12.At 11:15 I am finished with my oldest and if We want to go to the park or library ect we have time now to go and be back in an hour for lunch.
For the rest of LHFHG we do it after lunch sitting on the couch and then move to the kitchen if needed for the activity...and it takes at most 30m. We read the reddy fox first, then the pilgrims then the science text and do the acitivity whether its science, art or the games.
I've found that consistency is important and the children stop fighting the routine and embrace it, wanting each day to flow the same... and they really enjoy it!Children may not know how to read a clock when they are really young but they know when breakfast is over what comes next.
When my days becomes smoother I will add in bible formally (right now we say the verse, sing the songs randomly through the day). Eventually I will also add in LHTH with dd2.5 but it will not change our day since I am already taking that time with her!!! I add a little at a time so I'm not overwhelmed with all of it at once!`Maybe start with one thing like "storytime" and do that consistenly for a week at the same point in your day, then add in the next thing for a week like 1-1 time, ect.

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Fri Sep 16, 2011 2:15 pm
by Carrie
honeymomma4,

One thing that has helped me is to view the left side of LHFHG as one 30 min. chunk that I need to be uninterrupted if at all possible. The four boxes on the right side of LHFHG can easily be scattered throughout the day and not done in one grouping, but the left side seems to flow better and more smoothly if all done together in one sitting.

With this in mind, I would plan to do the left side of LHFHG when your little one is napping. When we do the left side of LHFHG, typically I will do the reading of the history story first, followed by Rhymes in Motion, then the Bible Study, and after that the singing of the Scripture song. Last, I finish with the bottom left corner box. Sometimes I move around the order in which I do things, but I typically always finish with the bottom left box. This is because this activity can sometimes go on longer, and I like to not be rushing the kiddos so I can finish out the left side. When I do the bottom left box last, they can continue on with that activity longer if they like. :D

I am always done easily with the left side in 30 min. or less. If I have a bit of extra time, I'll also squeeze in the Storytime Box during this time too. I find that when I do the left side in one chunk, there are only four 15 min. items remaining on the right side of LHFHG to complete. This is easily accomplished! :D

Often I do two of the right side boxes first thing when my sweeties start their day. Usually I begin with the fine motor skills and follow it up with math. However, since you have two sweeties doing LHFHG, I would likely have one do the fine motor skills while the other does phonics. Then, I would switch and have the other do fine motor skills while the other one does phonics or emerging readers. I love to do two writing/thinking type areas like these before my little honeys' hands and minds wear out! :D Then, I let them take a play break for 30 min. or so, but I set the timer so they know when their playtime is up (and so do I). Otherwise, the day could get away from me! :D

After their playbreak, you could either do the left side of LHFHG in one chunk if your precious babe is napping, or if your babe is not napping you could do the remaining two boxes of LHFHG (doing math with both older kiddos at the same time around the table, seated between them to help both as needed). When I do this for math, I just make sure everybody whispers or talks very quietly when they need me. The littlest ones don't always cooperate, but we try to keep it fairly quiet with those aged 2 on up playing something like a magnadoodle or other cupboard toys at the table too. :wink: After that you could cuddle on the couch and do Storytime. :D With this scenario, you would do the left side of LHFHG in one 30 min. chunk in the afternoon as your babe was sleeping instead. :D

If the reverse occurred, your schedule would instead be phonics or emerging reader/fine motor first, then a playbreak, then LHFHG left side, then a break for 30 min. (which possibly includes lunch depending on the time of day), and then math and storytime. :D

In thinking of your other thread, if you did add the language arts and math from Beyond's right side for your older child, the schedule above would still work. You would just have one additional box of spelling/grammar to add either first thing in the morning or after your child's Emerging Reader time. Either way would likely work. Whatever you decide to do, I would strive to follow the same order to each day with the exception of when you do the left side of LHFHG (which will be based on your baby's napping schedule). In this way, everyone will get in a rhythm and will know what to expect. :D

If you desire to add LHTH, you could easily add it in the morning when your two kiddos are having their playtime after completing two boxes of LHFHG. LHTH just takes 30 min., so I'd do it in one chunk if at all possible. :D

When I do LHTH, I typically begin with the Bible story. I often have the child sit on my lap, so he is contained and looking at the pictures. :wink: Next, we hop up and do the fingerplay to get the wiggles out. After that we'll often do whatever active boxes there are. We typically end with any table work that is artsy and requires a table to complete. This is because table work can go on awhile for those new little writers. So, I love to end with that. :D This also allows me to get started on any other table type work (like math) that my olders could do while my little one is finishing.

I hope some of the ideas in here may work help as you ponder what is best for your family. There truly is not one right way to schedule, but sometimes reading someone else's ideas helps you find your fit. :D

Blessings,
Carrie

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:29 pm
by honeymomma4
Carrie,
I think what you listed would definitely work.
I have 2 things plaguing me right now which I need to work out. DS is in between needing 1 and 2 naps. He typically can either take 2 small ones but I have to wake him early to be able to do this (so school would be done in chunks) or he can take one long one from 10-12:30 but then he does get tired in the afternoon. the early one seems to work better with the schedule ideas you suggested.

My other issue is that I am needing a break, or quiet time in the afternoon. But maybe I can get this 30 min. chunk out of the way (left side of program) with all 3 kids listening (3yo listens or plays nearby) and then go to quiet times? (this is when DS can do his quiet reading?)

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:40 pm
by my3sons
It looks like you are getting some great, very practical advice here. :D I remember this point with each of each of our dc...
honeymomma4 wrote:...DS is in between needing 1 and 2 naps. He typically can either take 2 small ones but I have to wake him early to be able to do this...
For us, I remember deciding to try to break the nap into 2 shorter segments, as this made baby more cheerful in the afternoon, and that made all of us more cheerful then too. :D I did my left side of LHFHG during our baby's first nap, which was usually around 45 minutes. I often had time to do one more box from the right side of LHFHG too. When baby is awake, I definitely think you could do LHTH. You could even do it half-speed with your 3 yo, doing just half of one page of plans boxes one day, and then finishing the other half of the boxes on that page the next day. This would only take 15 minutes, and baby would probably love the music and the fingerplays, as well as be able to kick around on a blanket for blanket time during the rest of the short time. Does baby swing, or do the playpen, or sit in a saucer? All of these things helped me keep baby near me but not needing me so much while I was homeschooling. You could either have baby do some of these types of things while you finish out the right side of LHFHG, or you could finish out LHFHG during baby's afternoon nap. But because I can see how you would want this (being pregnant and a busy mom of many little ones)...
honeymomma4 wrote:My other issue is that I am needing a break, or quiet time in the afternoon. But maybe I can get this 30 min. chunk out of the way (left side of program) with all 3 kids listening (3yo listens or plays nearby) and then go to quiet times? (this is when DS can do his quiet reading?)
I'd lean toward having baby do some of these more independent things and finish out the right side of LHFHG during those. I hope something here helps! :D

In Christ,
Julie

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 6:28 am
by Heidi in AK
What a great thread! honeymomma4, thanks for posting, and I pray you got some great ideas. I LOVE the thought of starting with the left side in one chunk. I can definitely relate to Carrie's post about having to get it done all at one time. big sky, you may have only 3 weeks in, but I gained from your post the idea of doing something with DS2.5 for 15 min or so before getting started with DD5. We have that trouble now. He insists on being a part of what we do, which has made it so I'm almost ready to shelve school, but I can't do that, at the same time! So we have NOT been getting done. I wonder what would happen if I played with him or did a little something with him before getting started with DD?

Re: Having trouble scheduling ONE program

Posted: Tue Sep 27, 2011 10:55 am
by Robbi
I will just jump in and say when we started just 4 weeks ago I thought I could only do Beyond with my DD. I had got LHTH for my almost 4 yr old but had decided to wait until Jan to start. . . . Well after just 2 weeks I started doing LHTH just half speed with him. It gives my DD a little break (she usually plays a computer game) and it gives me just a few minutes with DS and then he goes and plays while we finish up Beyond. It is working good for us, although my DS is a year older. I say, write some schedule down and try it for a few days then you can see what needs to be different! Oh, and to the OP I also remember the 2 nap a day or 1 dilemma!! Right now we are at no nap or 1 nap!! You could have 2 different schedules, one for each. You will probably know based on when the babe got up in the morning which you'll need. After awhile I also just alternated days for 2 nap vs 1. Like mon,wed,fri was 2 naps and tues,thurs,sat,sun was one nap. That worked for awhile too. Good luck everyone. I'm praying for a smooth school year for us all! :)