Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

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Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Homeschooling6 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:07 am

I am pondering putting Lance my 7.5 year 1st grader in Little Hearts but am wondering if I can handle another guide. Lance, still has trouble with copywork. He can't form all his letters yet, even though they were all introduced to him via IEW/PAL Writing. I currently have him in Beyond with Ethan. We are on Unit 10.

He can read cvc words and he is working through a phonics/reading program. Lance is the last child of six and is a bit silly and goofy :wink: . I'm thinking if I do move him to Little Hearts I can combine the science but I would like to keep the other subjects (history, Bible, Storytime).

One of my main concerns is using Bigger with him in the fall.

I don't want to use Beyond at half speed with him.

Any thoughts?

Thank you,
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by holdinon » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:59 pm

It sounds like you think Lance would truly be better working in Little Hearts, but the thing that is holding you back is wondering about the time constraints. If that is the case, I think you could easily make the transition and not feel much different in the amount of time. You are already doing his own Reading and Math. You didn't specifically mention it (or either I missed it), but are you working on his handwriting already as well? If so, then that is basically the right side of the guide, less storytime. And the left side of Little Hearts plus storytime generally takes about 30 minutes. So you are really only looking at another half hour to your day.....And....it may not even be that much, because if he is attempting to do the work in Beyond with older sibling, then pulling him out of that scenario may allow you to move through your Beyond time a little quicker, evening out the time. Does that make sense?

Once they both move up, I'm assuming your older set will be into CtC which is much more independent, so some of the time you are spending with them now will be alleviated at that point.

It sounds very do-able to me :D . Hope that helps!
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Homeschooling6 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:15 pm

holdinon wrote:It sounds like you think Lance would truly be better working in Little Hearts, but the thing that is holding you back is wondering about the time constraints. If that is the case, I think you could easily make the transition and not feel much different in the amount of time. You are already doing his own Reading and Math. You didn't specifically mention it (or either I missed it), but are you working on his handwriting already as well? If so, then that is basically the right side of the guide, less storytime. And the left side of Little Hearts plus storytime generally takes about 30 minutes. So you are really only looking at another half hour to your day.....And....it may not even be that much, because if he is attempting to do the work in Beyond with older sibling, then pulling him out of that scenario may allow you to move through your Beyond time a little quicker, evening out the time. Does that make sense?

Once they both move up, I'm assuming your older set will be into CtC which is much more independent, so some of the time you are spending with them now will be alleviated at that point.

It sounds very do-able to me :D . Hope that helps!
Angie
Angie, yes, he has his own phonics and math. I am working with him on writing his letters.

Currently he is not doing any of the copywork in Beyond. My main concern is starting Bigger in the fall and the jump with more writing. I would really like to keep them together but with his motor skills and all I'm not sure.

I have $80.00 in HOD gifts certificates that would pay for most of it (although I have been purchasing them slowly for CtC).
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Heidi in AK » Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:50 pm

I imagine the tough part is scheduling, and I agree with you and Angie that he probably would be better off to go into LHFHG. As far as History, Bible, and Science, not knowing what he's been exposed to, I can't comment there. However, it could go more smoothly for you. And I think, if you needed the help or wanted it, the ladies here can help you plan your steps (of course, the Lord will order them ;) ) so you can accomplish all you want to. Just a little encouragement!!! :D
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Tidbits of Learning » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:03 pm

This is just me, but I wouldn't move back if it is just handwriting holding you back. It isn't that 3 guides is too much. We are doing 3 guides, but I wouldn't want back to back guides. Especially when you get to Bigger and Preparing. I think at Unit 10 you have a lot of time to improve fine motor skills and handwriting. I wouldn't stress him not doing copywork right now. I would focus on those motor skills. You haven't said there are any other issues besides handwriting and fine motor skills. Instead of totally switching to LHFHG, I would suggest buying the 1st grade fine motor skills book and the first grade handwriting book (either ARFH A or GD 1st grade-depending on which style of writing you have been using). In LHFHG in the fine motor skills box, you alternate 1 day of handwriting and 1 day out of the fine motor skills book. That is what I would buy and do. That would be my suggestion to try before moving down a guide.
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by my3sons » Sat Feb 18, 2012 4:30 pm

Good ideas to ponder here already! :D If ds is not doing any copywork at all, he will not be ready for Bigger Hearts next year anyway. LHFHG works on teaching formation of letters, and that fits ds well from what you've shared. I think you could do LHFHG with him and that this would actually be a relief. Maturity is something to consider, and as you'd mentioned he's a bit silly and goofy (which BTW I think is kind of a happy person to add into the mix of a family - we have one ourselves :wink: ), I think LHFHG would fit well too. You could do LHFHG with him just 4 days a week, and stretch it out a tad so there's a little time between guides before teaching them back to back. But, I kind of have begun to change my thoughts on the back-to-back guides being such a thing to consider. There have been so many moms on this board that have taught back to back guides and enjoyed it so much, that I have begun to think it's probably not as big of a deal as I thought it might be (having never done it myself). I think that is still kind of a personal preference, but I was thinking the other day - when I taught 3rd grade, I taught the same things (give or take a few subjects) every year for around 5 years. I still enjoyed my teaching overall, and it felt different doing it with different students each year. So, I agree teaching back to back guides is something to consider, but probably less of a thing to consider than proper placement for ds. If you try LHFHG, and find it's too much, you can switch to half-speed Beyond - which I know is not your first choice, but it could be a back-up. I really do think you will find the switch to LHFHG to be easier though. Just a few thoughts along with the other lady's good thoughts to ponder! I hope something here helps. :D

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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Homeschooling6 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:05 pm

Ladies I appreciate all your advice and suggestions.

I'm really feeling that Little Hearts really is the best fit for Lance. I don't really want to have three guides running but again, Lance, isn't doing any of the copywork which I think will cause some struggle with Bigger later. Bigger seems a good jump from Beyond with writing (a good thing :wink: ).

With regards to Guides being back-to-back, if I start Lance, using Little Hearts in two weeks, Ethan will be on Unit 12 of Beyond. Next year in fall (I'm thinking more like October/Novemeber) Lance most likely will still be in Little Hearts, Ethan in Bigger, Caleb and Brent in CtC and Annette Res. to Ref. so, by the time Ethan is using Preparing, Lance will still need another 12 or so units before starting Bigger.

Aaack, it's a hard decision because I don't want to impulse buy. I know I could do something else with him but I need that schedule and Little Heart provides that for me. Lance, is my last child and I want to spend sometime with him, again, I know Little Hearts will help me with that.

Basically the two things that are holding me back is time and money :shock: . Although with the money I just so happen to have the right amount of HOD gifts certificates :mrgreen:
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Homeschooling6 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:15 pm

I also wanted to add that like Julie suggested I could do Little Hearts four days a week. When Lance, is in 2nd grade I can always add R&S Enlgish 2 as well.

Okay, I think I'm done trying to convince myslef. LOL.

Now if any of you are familiar with HOD gift certificates. When I go through the check out, can I add multiple certifictates. When I checked today, there was only one box to add the certificate number.

(still deciding but almost certain Lance will use Little Hearts)
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Homeschooling6 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:03 pm

Here is a sample of his copywork from this past week. I thought I'd have him try it again :oops: I had him copy a very short sentence when he first started Beyond.
Copywork by Lance
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Tidbits of Learning » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:13 am

I think his writing is pretty neat for a 1st grade boy. I would work on him keeping words together on the same line and spacing. I would probably try and have him work on one line each week of copywork and really correct mistakes and make sure that it looks good.
I would really try this before taking on another guide. If he doesn't have trouble with any other parts of Beyond, I would give copywork a good chance before moving him down and adding on another guide.

ETA-I may be confused but aren't you going to add in another child with RTR, CTC, Bigger, and if you drop back Lance Beyond next year? You need to meet him where he is at, but at the same time I can't imagine doing 4 guides with 5 kids. I would think about next year as well if I am right and you are adding in another guide next year for another child also.
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by psreit » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:00 pm

I do not have to use more than one guide, so I am speaking from a different angle. When I decided to use HOD, I was planning to use Beyond with my 7yo. I even bought the guide. After reading threads on the jump in skills from Beyond to Bigger, I re-evaluated and ended up putting her back in LHFHG. I am so glad I did. She could have handled some things in Beyond, but LHFHG gave her time to strengthen in her reading and handwriting skills. She could not have handled Bigger this year. I agree with Julie. Maturity has a lot to do with it. I have seen dd mature a lot over the past year and Beyond has been such a good fit for her this year. Not only did using LHFHG give a good foundation in academic skills, but also in character and Biblical training (the most important). :) Moving dd back was the best decsion I could have made for her. She will be 9 when she starts Bigger, but she will be ready for it. :D HTH
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Re: Thinking About Putting Lance in Little Hearts

Post by Homeschooling6 » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:54 pm

Tidbits of Learning wrote:I think his writing is pretty neat for a 1st grade boy. I would work on him keeping words together on the same line and spacing. I would probably try and have him work on one line each week of copywork and really correct mistakes and make sure that it looks good.
I would really try this before taking on another guide. If he doesn't have trouble with any other parts of Beyond, I would give copywork a good chance before moving him down and adding on another guide.

ETA-I may be confused but aren't you going to add in another child with RTR, CTC, Bigger, and if you drop back Lance Beyond next year? You need to meet him where he is at, but at the same time I can't imagine doing 4 guides with 5 kids. I would think about next year as well if I am right and you are adding in another guide next year for another child also.
Tidbits, thank you. Yes, next year my dd will start Res. to Ref. I have thought about it and am praying that it will work out. I had a talk today with the four older dc. Usually the first subject I tackle is Latin with my four older dc. I told them that they need to start doing this on their own. That I need this time in the morning with Lance.

I am concerned about the four guides next year, especially with one being in Bigger. I have heard that it is one of the more mom-time guides. With my two younger ones, I'm going to be more relaxed, meaning if we don't finish five days in five days, I'll be okay. As long as I don't feel rushed I think I can handle it.

It's taken me years to be where I'm at in homeschooling. The past four years I have really been working on meeting my children where they are at without comparing and feeling like I have to rush through something just to finish on time.

I hit the submit button (even though it was hard giving up my certificates that I was saving for next school year) and although I feel at peace with purchasing Little Hearts, I'm still wondering if it's the right move. Time will tell I guess :? . A month from now I'll probably say, "I should have listened to Tidbits of Learing" =) If it ends up being too much maybe there will still be time to bump him back up in Beyond and continue with Ethan.

Again, thanks for taking the time to reply.
Linda
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