Still not quite sure about the 8 yo.
Many Blessings!
Kathy
Like what I see ... trying to nail it all down
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momof4busyboys
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Re: Like what I see ... trying to nail it all down
Ugh, I'm back to questions about PHFHG with extensions or CTC for my oldest. Here's where I get confused. How far will HOD go. What is after R to R. Is HOD scheduled to end by high school. I'm not a planner, but just trying to figure out where it will end and if these programs are written to sustain and meet the needs of a high school child. That's the absolute most planning ahead my ADD mind can take. If I run my oldest at the top age at each level with extensions is it going to run him into high school. I'm sorry, I'm just not quite clear. How many more programs is Carrie going to right? I was completely confident of my choice to do PHFHG with extensions until my friend suggested CTC. Aha! I know not to listen to what others are doing, but ...
Still not quite sure about the 8 yo.
Many Blessings!
Kathy
Still not quite sure about the 8 yo.
Many Blessings!
Kathy
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Re: Like what I see ... trying to nail it all down
Probably not much help here, but if you look at the Scope and Sequence it shows that Carrie has committed to write 3 more guides. Age of Exploration, 1800's to Modern times and a Guide with the focus on Geography (I think). She has not committed to writing High School level guides, but I'm praying the Lord will lead her in this direction 
. But until then, I'm going to stretch what Carrie has given us and make it work for HS.
. But until then, I'm going to stretch what Carrie has given us and make it work for HS.Christi
Married to High School sweetheart for 16 years
Mom to four blessings
Fall (2011/2012)
DS 16- PS
DS 14- RevtoRev w/extensions
DS 8- PS
DD 6- PS
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Married to High School sweetheart for 16 years
Mom to four blessings
Fall (2011/2012)
DS 16- PS
DS 14- RevtoRev w/extensions
DS 8- PS
DD 6- PS
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momof4busyboys
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Re: Like what I see ... trying to nail it all down
Thanks Christi!
That does help. That would carry my oldest through 10th grade if we did PHFHG this year or 9th if we did CTC. I wonder ...
Still trying to figure it all out!
Kathy
That does help. That would carry my oldest through 10th grade if we did PHFHG this year or 9th if we did CTC. I wonder ...
Still trying to figure it all out!
Kathy
Re: Like what I see ... trying to nail it all down
Kathy,
I apologize for taking a bit to pop back in to this thread. I appreciate your patience during our busy season.
I have a few ideas for you to ponder as you consider where to place your kiddos. As far as your 10 year old goes, if he is between Preparing Hearts and CTC on the placement chart, then I would definitely lean toward placing him in Preparing Hearts. It takes a very independent, strong reader, strong writer, who reads a long series of directions well to flourish in CTC as the first HOD program. If the child fits squarely in CTC on the chart, then the child will do well in CTC. However, the parent will still need to train the child in using the CTC independently for the boxes labeled 'I' as the child won't have been trained in those skills within the previous HOD guides (as other user have been who are coming out of Preparing Hearts instead). I would have your son do as much of Preparing Hearts on his own as he is able, making sure to follow up with him right after his readings with any scheduled activities and discussion.
In having your 10 year old do DITHR 4/5, Rod and Staff 4, and the creative writing lessons within the Preparing Hearts guide you should have a good fit in the 3R's. If you using a different math that you enjoy already, then there is no need to switch to Singapore.
As far as your 8 year old goes, I would definitely place him in Beyond (in order to give him another year to grow up in the area of writing). Do copywork as required in Beyond daily and do the writing as scheduled in the guide. A year can do wonders in boys, not to mention if you lessen the battle over writing, your days will flow better! You will also use either the Emerging Reader's Set or DITHR Level 2/3 with your 8 year old. If you desire a gentle introduction to grammar, then do the grammar lessons as scheduled in Beyond. If you desire a more rigorous grammar approach, then add Rod and Staff's English 2 to his day. Simply continue with his cursive handwriting.
Even if you have already read one of the spines within Beyond, I would encourage you to consider repeating it within the plans that are in Beyond. In the long run I think that your placement will be more accurate if you take out of the equation the fact that you're already read one of the books within Beyond. The skills woven within the Beyond guide, along with the Biblical application, and hands-on activities will make it feel totally different. We had to reread books we'd already read too, as I wrote our guides after my oldest had gone through those time periods already!
For your 6 year old, it sounds like Beyond will be too big of a stretch which leaves him in LHFHG. One option that you could consider, if he is a late bloomer, would be to have him sit in with LHTH with your younger child and then add the 3R's from LHFHG to it for his K year. For your 6 year old I would plan on adding The Reading Lesson for phonics (with CD), A Reason for Handwriting 'K', the Do It Carefully/ Finding the Answers 2 workbook set, and the Earlybird math with the hands-on plans in the LHFHG guide. You would essentially be following most of the right side of the page from the LHFHG plans, and then having him sit in for all of LHTH for the Biblical knowledge, fine-tuning of skills, and playful feel. Then, the following year, you could head into LHFHG with him at full-speed, doing the grade 1 options for the 3R's.
This would allow you to focus on doing Preparing Hearts and Beyond, while not neglecting the important skills of teaching the 3R's to your Kindergarten student. Just something to ponder. Otherwise, you could begin LHFHG at half-speed doing it over two years instead. 
Blessings,
Carrie
I apologize for taking a bit to pop back in to this thread. I appreciate your patience during our busy season.
I have a few ideas for you to ponder as you consider where to place your kiddos. As far as your 10 year old goes, if he is between Preparing Hearts and CTC on the placement chart, then I would definitely lean toward placing him in Preparing Hearts. It takes a very independent, strong reader, strong writer, who reads a long series of directions well to flourish in CTC as the first HOD program. If the child fits squarely in CTC on the chart, then the child will do well in CTC. However, the parent will still need to train the child in using the CTC independently for the boxes labeled 'I' as the child won't have been trained in those skills within the previous HOD guides (as other user have been who are coming out of Preparing Hearts instead). I would have your son do as much of Preparing Hearts on his own as he is able, making sure to follow up with him right after his readings with any scheduled activities and discussion.
In having your 10 year old do DITHR 4/5, Rod and Staff 4, and the creative writing lessons within the Preparing Hearts guide you should have a good fit in the 3R's. If you using a different math that you enjoy already, then there is no need to switch to Singapore.
As far as your 8 year old goes, I would definitely place him in Beyond (in order to give him another year to grow up in the area of writing). Do copywork as required in Beyond daily and do the writing as scheduled in the guide. A year can do wonders in boys, not to mention if you lessen the battle over writing, your days will flow better! You will also use either the Emerging Reader's Set or DITHR Level 2/3 with your 8 year old. If you desire a gentle introduction to grammar, then do the grammar lessons as scheduled in Beyond. If you desire a more rigorous grammar approach, then add Rod and Staff's English 2 to his day. Simply continue with his cursive handwriting.
Even if you have already read one of the spines within Beyond, I would encourage you to consider repeating it within the plans that are in Beyond. In the long run I think that your placement will be more accurate if you take out of the equation the fact that you're already read one of the books within Beyond. The skills woven within the Beyond guide, along with the Biblical application, and hands-on activities will make it feel totally different. We had to reread books we'd already read too, as I wrote our guides after my oldest had gone through those time periods already!
For your 6 year old, it sounds like Beyond will be too big of a stretch which leaves him in LHFHG. One option that you could consider, if he is a late bloomer, would be to have him sit in with LHTH with your younger child and then add the 3R's from LHFHG to it for his K year. For your 6 year old I would plan on adding The Reading Lesson for phonics (with CD), A Reason for Handwriting 'K', the Do It Carefully/ Finding the Answers 2 workbook set, and the Earlybird math with the hands-on plans in the LHFHG guide. You would essentially be following most of the right side of the page from the LHFHG plans, and then having him sit in for all of LHTH for the Biblical knowledge, fine-tuning of skills, and playful feel. Then, the following year, you could head into LHFHG with him at full-speed, doing the grade 1 options for the 3R's.
This would allow you to focus on doing Preparing Hearts and Beyond, while not neglecting the important skills of teaching the 3R's to your Kindergarten student.
Just something to ponder. Otherwise, you could begin LHFHG at half-speed doing it over two years instead. Blessings,
Carrie
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momof4busyboys
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Re: Like what I see ... trying to nail it all down
Wow Carrie:
Pretty much nailed it down in one foul swoop ... otherwise known as post.
You gave me peace about the 10-year-old. He is quite sharp and a great reader, but not familiar with HOD so I would rather take it a little slower and build up.
I'll look at Beyond again. Maybe I'll let Stephen read Patriots and Pioneers (the spine we already read) to me this time. If I do that with 8 yo, then he'll do Bigger at 9 and PHFHG at 10. Following right along behind brother with the same spread. Sounds good to me. We're finishing up Abeka 1st grade math. I happen to have Primary Mathematic (Standard) which is the American Singapore (I think) for level 2B. I have Primary Math U.S. Edition 1A. I'm afraid that is way basic, but 2A might be a stretch. Perhaps start him in 1B (which is the one I don't have)? I'm not sure. Has anyone switched from Abeka to Singapore. We've used many different maths, none is the perfect fit yet. Honestly, the idea of starting in the middle of the Beyond TG and then having to flip to the back of the book in the middle of the year makes my head spin. Perhaps I should just stay where we are with Abeka. Teaching textbooks is coming out with 3rd grade, and he might test right into that. Again Carrie ... I think the jury is still out on Teaching Textbooks. Any advice on math?
The 6 yo would love LHTH with his baby brother (planning on doing that with all four boys anyway) and then I'll put him in on LHFHG (right side) for the 3 R's. 6 and 7 in LHFHG. 8 for Beyond. 9 for Bigger. 10 for PHFHG. I'm starting to see a pattern!!
Is there anything wrong with running my kids on the older side of each TG and adding in Extensions. My oldest son read us 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea in the car today. We were so into it. Everytime he would stop for a minute, the 8 yo would flip out. We read the entire book (Jr. edition) in one car trip. We played a game we hadn't played in a while. We read a chapter, then we take turns seeing who can come up with the best title for the chapter. I loved it when we all named one of the chapters, and then my oldest son said, "Stephen definitely had the best title for that one". I can't remember the title he (Stephen) came up with, but I can remember the encouragment from his older brother. Sooooo beautiful to hear them encouraging and building each other up. All that to say, I want to raise up a herd of boys who love to read. One child down and three to go.
The last struggle I'm having is with buying the books. We are in NC, and homeschooling is big here. Praise God!! The library is great, but you are always going to have to wait on a book that is on a booklist, and you usually will not be able to renew those books because someone is waiting on them. I have my eye on the used book stores in town and Goodwill. Any other suggestions? I have too many kids to buy new (especially since we are switching over to an entirely new curriculum). The TGs and DITHOR are gonna do me in. If I was just going to buy a few of the PHFHG books, which would be the best? Which are books that will be used all throughout the year? I've already checked my library and there are several that they don't even have. I already have many of them, but ...
Sorry to be so wordy, but I think I'm almost there. You guys are such a huge blessing with the time you give on these boards. I know the advice I have been given has been thought out, prayed over, and given with consideration. I DO NOT take that lightly, and it is what keeps me coming back.
I'm continuing to pray and hoping to get the order in this week. I want to see those amazing Teacher Guides with all the cool boxes!!
God Bless!
Kathy
Pretty much nailed it down in one foul swoop ... otherwise known as post.
You gave me peace about the 10-year-old. He is quite sharp and a great reader, but not familiar with HOD so I would rather take it a little slower and build up.
I'll look at Beyond again. Maybe I'll let Stephen read Patriots and Pioneers (the spine we already read) to me this time. If I do that with 8 yo, then he'll do Bigger at 9 and PHFHG at 10. Following right along behind brother with the same spread. Sounds good to me. We're finishing up Abeka 1st grade math. I happen to have Primary Mathematic (Standard) which is the American Singapore (I think) for level 2B. I have Primary Math U.S. Edition 1A. I'm afraid that is way basic, but 2A might be a stretch. Perhaps start him in 1B (which is the one I don't have)? I'm not sure. Has anyone switched from Abeka to Singapore. We've used many different maths, none is the perfect fit yet. Honestly, the idea of starting in the middle of the Beyond TG and then having to flip to the back of the book in the middle of the year makes my head spin. Perhaps I should just stay where we are with Abeka. Teaching textbooks is coming out with 3rd grade, and he might test right into that. Again Carrie ... I think the jury is still out on Teaching Textbooks. Any advice on math?
The 6 yo would love LHTH with his baby brother (planning on doing that with all four boys anyway) and then I'll put him in on LHFHG (right side) for the 3 R's. 6 and 7 in LHFHG. 8 for Beyond. 9 for Bigger. 10 for PHFHG. I'm starting to see a pattern!!
Is there anything wrong with running my kids on the older side of each TG and adding in Extensions. My oldest son read us 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea in the car today. We were so into it. Everytime he would stop for a minute, the 8 yo would flip out. We read the entire book (Jr. edition) in one car trip. We played a game we hadn't played in a while. We read a chapter, then we take turns seeing who can come up with the best title for the chapter. I loved it when we all named one of the chapters, and then my oldest son said, "Stephen definitely had the best title for that one". I can't remember the title he (Stephen) came up with, but I can remember the encouragment from his older brother. Sooooo beautiful to hear them encouraging and building each other up. All that to say, I want to raise up a herd of boys who love to read. One child down and three to go.
The last struggle I'm having is with buying the books. We are in NC, and homeschooling is big here. Praise God!! The library is great, but you are always going to have to wait on a book that is on a booklist, and you usually will not be able to renew those books because someone is waiting on them. I have my eye on the used book stores in town and Goodwill. Any other suggestions? I have too many kids to buy new (especially since we are switching over to an entirely new curriculum). The TGs and DITHOR are gonna do me in. If I was just going to buy a few of the PHFHG books, which would be the best? Which are books that will be used all throughout the year? I've already checked my library and there are several that they don't even have. I already have many of them, but ...
Sorry to be so wordy, but I think I'm almost there. You guys are such a huge blessing with the time you give on these boards. I know the advice I have been given has been thought out, prayed over, and given with consideration. I DO NOT take that lightly, and it is what keeps me coming back.
I'm continuing to pray and hoping to get the order in this week. I want to see those amazing Teacher Guides with all the cool boxes!!
God Bless!
Kathy