Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

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Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Tree House Academy » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:15 pm

??? I am sure this has been covered or asked before, but I can't find anything about it. Help?
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ds13(8th) - Rev to Rev w/ TT Pre-Algebra, R&S English 6, CLE Reading 8, Rosetta Stone French
ds9 (4th) - Preparing Hearts, TT Math 4, R&S English 3, CLE Reading 4, & Writeshop Jr.

We have completed LHFHG, BLHFHG, Bigger, CTC, & RTR.

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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by deltagal » Tue Apr 13, 2010 12:18 pm

CTC covers only 1/2 of English 5. The other half will be covered in RTR. The goal is for your child to have finished English 6 by the end of 8th grade and then have 4 years to cover the 2 remaining Rod and STaff Grammar texts.
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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Tree House Academy » Tue Apr 13, 2010 1:40 pm

I see. So, since my son is a 6th grader next year doing R&S 5, we need to get through the book in 1 year...then we will just be one book ahead of the manuals, I guess. Thanks for clearing that up for me. :)
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ds9 (4th) - Preparing Hearts, TT Math 4, R&S English 3, CLE Reading 4, & Writeshop Jr.

We have completed LHFHG, BLHFHG, Bigger, CTC, & RTR.

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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by threegreatkids » Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:18 pm

What about:
grade 6 R & S 5 (1st half according to CtC schedule)
grade 7 R & S 5 (2nd half according to RtR schedule)
grade 8 R & S 6 (all)

AM I understanding correctly that HOD recommends going half-speed with R & S for 2 years in the middle grades to avoid grammar burnout? After splitting one manual over two years, you go back to full-speed until 8th, as long as you can do this plan and still get through level 6.
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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by deltagal » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:02 pm

Perhaps, this thread which includes Carrie's thoughts, will be of some use.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5494
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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Tree House Academy » Tue Apr 13, 2010 7:53 pm

Thank you. That link was very helpful. I am still not sure what to do with my son who is working through grade 6 next year. He will start R&S 5, but then if we do the half year thing, we will be only halfway through R&S 6 when he is in 8th grade. Currently, he is doing R&S 4 as a 5th grader and that one is pretty simple for him. He is not a grammar scholar, but I do have a BA in English and a natural grammar slant, so maybe that helps. I have not really looked over R&S 5 yet, but it sounds to be a big step from R&S 4?!
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ds9 (4th) - Preparing Hearts, TT Math 4, R&S English 3, CLE Reading 4, & Writeshop Jr.

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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by deltagal » Wed Apr 14, 2010 11:36 am

My son is in grade 7 and we just began Rod and Staff 5. Our "Plan" is to complete is by mid-8th, begin 6 and complete it by mid-9th grade.

We work daily on grammar, because we need to complete it sooner than scheduled and we're okay. Rod and Staff continues to build on previous concepts and take gentle steps forward. We're good. IN fact, my son, who is by no means a "pro" when it comes to grammar, really enjoys the lessons because they are so concise.
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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Carrie » Wed Apr 14, 2010 9:18 pm

I just wanted to pop in and agree and respond to threegreatkids, as she's correct that we do schedule one level of Rod and Staff English to be done over two years in the middle guides in order to avoid grammar burnout (both by teacher and student) and to allow the kiddos to mature a bit before heading into the more difficult grammar concepts covered throughout 5 and 6. So, the plan to split English 5 over two years and then do English 6 in grade 8 is one great option. With our oldest son, we actually split English 4 over two years and did all of 5 in grade 7 and all of English 6 in grade 8. So, a myriad of plans will work with the goal (from our perspective) of finishing English 6 by the end of grade 8. :D

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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Tree House Academy » Thu Apr 15, 2010 8:27 pm

Carrie wrote:I just wanted to pop in and agree and respond to threegreatkids, as she's correct that we do schedule one level of Rod and Staff English to be done over two years in the middle guides in order to avoid grammar burnout (both by teacher and student) and to allow the kiddos to mature a bit before heading into the more difficult grammar concepts covered throughout 5 and 6. So, the plan to split English 5 over two years and then do English 6 in grade 8 is one great option. With our oldest son, we actually split English 4 over two years and did all of 5 in grade 7 and all of English 6 in grade 8. So, a myriad of plans will work with the goal (from our perspective) of finishing English 6 by the end of grade 8. :D

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If we need to finish English 6 by the end of 8th grade, then that gives us 3 whole years. We would do English 5 in 6th grade and could split English 6 over the last two years...or split 5 and do all of 6. For those of you that have gone through 5 and 6, which one of those would you think would be better to split? I assume 6 is much harder than 5??? Or is 6 a review?
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ds13(8th) - Rev to Rev w/ TT Pre-Algebra, R&S English 6, CLE Reading 8, Rosetta Stone French
ds9 (4th) - Preparing Hearts, TT Math 4, R&S English 3, CLE Reading 4, & Writeshop Jr.

We have completed LHFHG, BLHFHG, Bigger, CTC, & RTR.

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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Dixie » Thu Apr 15, 2010 9:35 pm

You could split the two books over three years. Otherwise, I would probably do English 5 over one year and split English 6. English 5 contains 119 lessons and 10 tests; while English 6 contains 132 lessons and 12 tests with the last test being a Final Test. My current 5th grader will have completed English 5 by the end of the school year, and he will begin English 6 in the fall. My 6th grader is doing English 6 this year and will not complete it until next year. English 6 definitely delves a little deeper grammar-wise and includes more writing assignments.

Hope this helps.

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Re: Why does CTC only use R&S Engl. 5 up through Lesson 58??

Post by Tree House Academy » Fri Apr 16, 2010 12:44 pm

it does. Thank you!
~Rebecca~

ds13(8th) - Rev to Rev w/ TT Pre-Algebra, R&S English 6, CLE Reading 8, Rosetta Stone French
ds9 (4th) - Preparing Hearts, TT Math 4, R&S English 3, CLE Reading 4, & Writeshop Jr.

We have completed LHFHG, BLHFHG, Bigger, CTC, & RTR.

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