Literature in WH standing alone

[momof2n2]

My son is 15th and starting grade 10. We are using parts of the WH guidebook for his this year. (Some pieces of his education are happening elsewhere - chemistry, Spanish, math.)

He is enrolled in our local community college for ENG 101 for the fall semester. I don't know if it is the same for dual enrollment in all states, but this one semester class will fulfill a full unit of English for his transcript. It will not include literature, however. We intend on doing literature as it is guided in the WH guidebook. Those of you who have done it, can you please tell me how much time your students invested on average. I am trying to determine if he will earn a half-credit or a full-credit in literature for his transcript. If it is somewhere in between, perhaps I will remove a book or two (how will I decide??!!!) and just have him earn a half-credit.

(He has completed Rod and Staff English books 2nd grade - 8th grade and the first book in the 9/10 set.)

Also - did you have your kids annotate directly in the books? They were roughly $90 and I have five other children that I would like to use them. Should I just accept the cost and repurchase every two years? Is there a way to take notes that isn't too time consuming in place of this?

Thank you for your thoughts.

[Tabitha]

We will be starting the WH guide this year, so I can't speak from experience.

However, looking at the sneak peek for the WH literature, viewtopic.php?f=6&t=15016, Carrie mentions that it falls under English 2. Original intents were a full year of World Lit, but that changed. Based on this, I would assign .5 credit. Perhaps on your child's transcript, list English as a full credit and in the description for the course list both the community college class and the WH literature. If the English class is a full stand alone, then I guess it would be an additional .5 credit for the WH Lit.

Also going by how English has been scheduled in the HOD guides, if your son has completed R&S 8 and the first in the 9/10 set, has he not completed sufficient English for high school credit already? Or, can something lighter for him be added for English? Or maybe that is why he is taking the community college classes now? We are moving through R&S as the HOD guides do, so going beyond R&S 8 seems awesome.

For the record, annotating with my oldest has proven to be quite difficult. For her to dare think of marring a book is horrifying to her. So, we discuss things right now. I am working on getting her to annotate. My intentions are each child using the same books as well. They can benefit from their older siblings notes and add more of their own. By the time we're done with our 3 girls, I expect tons of writings in the books (once I can actually convince my oldest of doing it).

[momof2n2]

Thank you for your reply.

I still remember the first time I started highlighting in a text in college. It felt so strange. I wonder what my son will think of it.

I will follow the link in your post. Thank you.

We love Rod and Staff and have been able to complete a text a year (doing it on the 5th days of the week, and sometimes doing it along with other things on some days). There is still one text left (Part B of 9/10) that I will likely use next year for grade 11 with whatever literature Carrie has in the next guidebook. You are probably right that we've satisfied high school English; but I don't know that I would want to get into any type of discussion with the school district explaining that the numbers on the covers of R & S in fact supersede what is being taught locally. If I have him take ENG 102 in the spring semester (not likely with planned vacations) he'd really be way ahead...

[LynnH]

Carrie says in the grading/credit part of the WH guide that the Literature can be an 1/2 credit by itself. We are only just starting week 2 with it, but I am finding he spends about 40 minutes on it a day. There are written narrations every other week and I know those days will take him longer. We are skipping the copywork part of the lit box, because with his dysgraphia it just isn't a priority at this point. So far this is one of of his favorite parts of the day-which is surprising, because in the past literature was one of his least favorite parts. He is loving Ben Hur! He is doing a combination of highlighting the book and then for his notes we have very skinny maybe 1 inch x 3 inch post its that he writes on and sticks those on the pages.

[momof2n2]

Carrie says in the grading/credit part of the WH guide that the Literature can be an 1/2 credit by itself. We are only just starting week 2 with it, but I am finding he spends about 40 minutes on it a day. There are written narrations every other week and I know those days will take him longer. We are skipping the copywork part of the lit box, because with his dysgraphia it just isn't a priority at this point. So far this is one of of his favorite parts of the day-which is surprising, because in the past literature was one of his least favorite parts. He is loving Ben Hur! He is doing a combination of highlighting the book and then for his notes we have very skinny maybe 1 inch x 3 inch post its that he writes on and sticks those on the pages.

Oooh - post its are a great idea! Thank you.

[momof2n2]

Carrie says in the grading/credit part of the WH guide that the Literature can be an 1/2 credit by itself. We are only just starting week 2 with it, but I am finding he spends about 40 minutes on it a day. There are written narrations every other week and I know those days will take him longer. We are skipping the copywork part of the lit box, because with his dysgraphia it just isn't a priority at this point. So far this is one of of his favorite parts of the day-which is surprising, because in the past literature was one of his least favorite parts. He is loving Ben Hur! He is doing a combination of highlighting the book and then for his notes we have very skinny maybe 1 inch x 3 inch post its that he writes on and sticks those on the pages.

Hmmmm - 40 minutes a day x 144 days (4 x 36) + 5,760 minutes. In NYS a full credit is 6,480 minutes. If a written narration takes 20 minutes every other week that is another 360 minutes. This looks like it will be a full credit class unless I remove some books. I'll run all this by DH and pray about it. Thank you for reporting the time.