which guide???? help!!!!
-
Jennymommy
- Posts: 298
- Joined: Wed Oct 08, 2014 2:19 pm
Re: which guide???? help!!!!
Sorry about the autocorrected grammar
Re: which guide???? help!!!!
thanks jennymommy!!! you ladies are such a blessing!!! I am so excited to have the kids begin in the fall. That is why I want to make sure I am choosing the right guides.
I feel good about my choice.
I feel good about my choice.
Re: which guide???? help!!!!
Thank you for sharing about each of your dc and for patiently answering all of my questions! 
From the combined information you've shared in different posts, I think you have arrived at a good placement! Hooray!!! 
MTMM for your ds, and PHFHG for your dd will give each of them enough 'meat' for the year without overwhelming them in the length of day. Based on each of your dc being strong readers, solid independent workers, and good direction followers, these guides should fit them each well. As you'd mentioned previously that each of them were used to working 3-4 hours a day spread out throughout the day with multiple breaks, as you'd also mentioned that neither are familiar with Charlotte Mason methods, and finally that writing is neither's favorite thing to do with each being used to writing 1/2 an hour a day, I think going any higher than MTMM for ds or higher than PHFHG for dd would be a challenge. Plus, your dd is just turning 10 yo. I do wonder if your ds, being very science-minded, could do the WG science? He'd need the WG guide though. I am unsure what credits you are wanting for that for this year and the future. However, MTMMs science is wonderful - our son thoroughly enjoyed it, so either would be fine. You'd want to add Ellen McHenry's Carbon Chemistry and Chem 101 DVDs to the MTMM science for high school credit. This will add another 30 minutes or so to the day.
The follow-up assessments in both guides will teach important skills in a new fresh, varied way. I think you will find this is so much more exciting and fulfilling than textbook driven or computer program driven curriculum - I am very excited for your dc to begin HOD! It may take a little time for dc to transition to reading more narrative style living books, as well as time to think deeply and respond more actively in discussions, oral narrations, written narrations, hands-on history activities, art projects, etc. BUT, I think you will all be happy with the change! It just breathes life into learning. One more transition may be the amount of time school takes your ds especially, which is why I've included the suggested time allotments for each of the guides below...
MTMM time it takes:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2093&p=91842
PHFHG time it takes:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4244&p=31219#p31219
It is wonderful that your kiddos have learned to work well independently! Letting them know that any of the "I" boxes are to be done completely independently, including the reading of the material, the following of the step-by-step directions, and the completion of the activity/work, will keep this skill strong. Giving them the actual teacher's guide to hold in hand and follow as they would within a student planner will ensure that they have everything they need at hand to do well with independent assignments. The boxes labeled "S" for semi-independent intend for the teacher to help dc begin the work fully understanding the assignment and getting off on the right foot, so that then the students can finish the work independently. "T" boxes intend for the parent to teach that assignment fully. Letting my kiddos know of this labeling system and the intent behind it has helped eliminate constant discussion about what they can do independently and what I am to be leading as the teacher!
One other thought- as you are new to HOD and so are your dc, you may want to stagger start them. You could begin with your ds, working with him in MTMM to teach him how to do each part of the daily plans and use the guide as his student planner more. You could set up the order you'd like him to do his work in, as well as when you are going to meet with him to do your teacher times and correcting of his work. Usually 2 weeks suffices for this setting up of the routine. Then, you could focus on getting your dd off to a good start in PHFHG the same way. I hope this helps! I think you are going to love HOD, and I hope your family is as blessed by using it as ours has been and continues to be!
In Christ,
Julie
From the combined information you've shared in different posts, I think you have arrived at a good placement! Hooray!!! MTMM for your ds, and PHFHG for your dd will give each of them enough 'meat' for the year without overwhelming them in the length of day. Based on each of your dc being strong readers, solid independent workers, and good direction followers, these guides should fit them each well. As you'd mentioned previously that each of them were used to working 3-4 hours a day spread out throughout the day with multiple breaks, as you'd also mentioned that neither are familiar with Charlotte Mason methods, and finally that writing is neither's favorite thing to do with each being used to writing 1/2 an hour a day, I think going any higher than MTMM for ds or higher than PHFHG for dd would be a challenge. Plus, your dd is just turning 10 yo. I do wonder if your ds, being very science-minded, could do the WG science? He'd need the WG guide though. I am unsure what credits you are wanting for that for this year and the future. However, MTMMs science is wonderful - our son thoroughly enjoyed it, so either would be fine. You'd want to add Ellen McHenry's Carbon Chemistry and Chem 101 DVDs to the MTMM science for high school credit. This will add another 30 minutes or so to the day.The follow-up assessments in both guides will teach important skills in a new fresh, varied way. I think you will find this is so much more exciting and fulfilling than textbook driven or computer program driven curriculum - I am very excited for your dc to begin HOD!
It may take a little time for dc to transition to reading more narrative style living books, as well as time to think deeply and respond more actively in discussions, oral narrations, written narrations, hands-on history activities, art projects, etc. BUT, I think you will all be happy with the change! It just breathes life into learning. One more transition may be the amount of time school takes your ds especially, which is why I've included the suggested time allotments for each of the guides below...MTMM time it takes:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=2093&p=91842
PHFHG time it takes:
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4244&p=31219#p31219
It is wonderful that your kiddos have learned to work well independently! Letting them know that any of the "I" boxes are to be done completely independently, including the reading of the material, the following of the step-by-step directions, and the completion of the activity/work, will keep this skill strong. Giving them the actual teacher's guide to hold in hand and follow as they would within a student planner will ensure that they have everything they need at hand to do well with independent assignments. The boxes labeled "S" for semi-independent intend for the teacher to help dc begin the work fully understanding the assignment and getting off on the right foot, so that then the students can finish the work independently. "T" boxes intend for the parent to teach that assignment fully. Letting my kiddos know of this labeling system and the intent behind it has helped eliminate constant discussion about what they can do independently and what I am to be leading as the teacher!
One other thought- as you are new to HOD and so are your dc, you may want to stagger start them. You could begin with your ds, working with him in MTMM to teach him how to do each part of the daily plans and use the guide as his student planner more. You could set up the order you'd like him to do his work in, as well as when you are going to meet with him to do your teacher times and correcting of his work. Usually 2 weeks suffices for this setting up of the routine. Then, you could focus on getting your dd off to a good start in PHFHG the same way. I hope this helps! I think you are going to love HOD, and I hope your family is as blessed by using it as ours has been and continues to be!
In Christ,
Julie
Enjoyed LHTH to USII
Currently using USI
Wife to Rich for 28 years
Mother to 3 sons, ages 23, 20, and 16
Sister to Carrie
Currently using USI
Wife to Rich for 28 years
Mother to 3 sons, ages 23, 20, and 16
Sister to Carrie